| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
|
 Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: why all the bitching about the new E-2 regulations??? |
 |
|
and why is this supposed to impact new recruits?
now granted, the process is a little onerous, especially for someone not living in a large city with its own Korean consulate.
but the backbone of the process is the criminal background check and a health check (though I think being super hard on something like bong residue on the system is assinine)
seems to me a criminal background check and basic health check is pretty much standard/common fare for most countries with any large groups of foreigners it may want to import for whatever reason.
When I taught in Venezuela, for my internship/visa I also had to get a criminal background check and a health check to get the visa.
so I don't quite understand why this is supposed to be a big deal. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Hank the Iconoclast
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
It's all about the immigration officials who never tell you the same thing. Btw, there have been a ton of posts about this.
It doesn't matter for me though, I will be back next year since I am getting married. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
WoBW
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: HBC
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| The bitching is for those of us who are already in Korea. Getting a CBC at the short notice they have given is a problem. It sucks to get one from the UK when you are in Korea. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Hank the Iconoclast wrote: |
It's all about the immigration officials who never tell you the same thing. Btw, there have been a ton of posts about this.
It doesn't matter for me though, I will be back next year since I am getting married. |
well, having just gone thru this, and about to come to Korea shortly, I have to say the process has been relatively painless (for me anyways), slightly annoying and onerous yes, but not horrid
the interview process at the Consulate was most amusing  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Korean bureaucrats has a way of taking the simplest, most mundane tasks and turning them into a farce.
As part of the health checkup, I had to fill out a 'mental health' questionnaire. Here are a few qs that I remember.
Answer 1 (for not strong) - to 4 (strong)
-I enjoy sex.
-I think people around me would like me better if I was dead.
-My heart beats faster than before.
-I'm tired more than before.
-I'm a nervous person.
I wanted to add this one....
'I lost all my brain cells answering these questions." |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| crescent wrote: |
Korean bureaucrats has a way of taking the simplest, most mundane tasks and turning them into a farce.
As part of the health checkup, I had to fill out a 'mental health' questionnaire.
Answer 1 (for not strong) - to 4 (strong)
-I enjoy sex.
-I think people around me would like me better if I was dead.
-My heart beats faster than before.
-I'm tired more than before.
-I'm a nervous person.
I wanted to add this one....
'I lost all my brain cells answering these questions." |
that's fucking funny.
aaahh..
crescent, now I understand - I can see how getting this crap once you are already in Korea would be a huge pain.
but I was commenting on posts that suggested the regulations made it difficult to recruit new teachers (who are presumably outside of Korea and back on the North American mainland) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
First of all, there is a backlog in a lot of areas to get a CRC. Almost 6 months for an Canadian RCMP check. Also, I've heard 2 conflicting stories regarding whether or not local police checks are sufficient.
But I bet a lot of people wouldn't want to make trip al the way out here and fail the medical.
There were a few cases posted here, where people failed the medical for prescription meds, and were deported.
There's already tons of bad rep on Korean ambiguity and people don't want to take a chance on it.
Add that to being 'owned' by the school that hires you, and you have to wonder why you went through all the hoops. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I agree, why not bitch about the very existence of the E2? Why does a teacher get an E2 and a company worker a different visa? Why is an E2 not meant to liberate a foreign worker but to shackle him. Why can't E2 holders buy a cell phone or get an international ATM card? Why? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
WoBW
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: HBC
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Because we're not Korean so we can't be trusted.
Don't ya know - we're EVIL. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
livinseoul
Joined: 28 Nov 2007
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I bought and still have my cellphone when I first came here on a tourist visa. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: why all the bitching about the new E-2 regulations??? |
|
|
| bogey666 wrote: |
and why is this supposed to impact new recruits?
now granted, the process is a little onerous, especially for someone not living in a large city with its own Korean consulate.
but the backbone of the process is the criminal background check and a health check (though I think being super hard on something like bong residue on the system is assinine)
seems to me a criminal background check and basic health check is pretty much standard/common fare for most countries with any large groups of foreigners it may want to import for whatever reason.
When I taught in Venezuela, for my internship/visa I also had to get a criminal background check and a health check to get the visa.
so I don't quite understand why this is supposed to be a big deal. |
After you have been here for a while and had to re-verify your documents for the umpteenth time (with all the attendant costs like notarizations, embassy visits and trips down to the immigration office) then be told you need to have some other seal affixed to it, then re-verify everything again, only to be told that it is incorrect and you need a different process.....
repeat until nauseated.
Then you will understand the whole process.
It is NOT a simple matter of getting a background check it is the stupidity and inconsistency afterward that causes the problems.
Pray tell, why do you need to verify your documents every year or every time you change employers?
Korean bureaucracy is at the height of stupidity and does not plan to come down any time soon.
In spite of their own opinion of themselves this is NOT the greatest place on earth (unless you are coming from some god forsaken 3rd world place) and for most people it is certainly not worth the time, trouble and expense it takes to get or keep a visa.
. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KrazyInKlamath
Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Location: Gyeongsan, South Korea
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
When I decided to come back to Korea on a new E-2 Visa, I wasn't irritated by the criminal background (I was surprised I didn't have to do it the previous year). The most irritating thing about the new regulations for me, at least stateside, was the fact that I was required to go to the Korean consulate in Seattle, WA because those of us in Oregon fall under its jurisiction. Maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if I had lived in Portland, but coming from a small town on the Oregon/California border is a huge headache. Driving is basically out of the question (especially during the winter) and flying (fortunately my hometown has a small airport) is quite expensive. I was at the consulate for 30 minutes. Fortunately they let me get my visa that day.
As for the health check, again, no problem if parties involved had any clue as to what they were supposed to do. I get my health check (everything: height, weight, vision, teeth, blood pressure, chest x-ray, blood and urine), the results come in and immigration won't take it because the hospital put on the report that the blood and urine tests came back negative. Immigration wanted a list of everything they tested for.
Thankfully, I love my job and my friends here so I put up with it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: why all the bitching about the new E-2 regulations??? |
|
|
I wholeheartedly agree that reverifying one's documents year after year is the height of assinine fucking stupidity.
I haven't had to deal with that yet... but I'm sure I'll be very pissed off if I have to. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Scarlet13
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Changwon
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Well I'm Canadian and I live about 2,800km away from the nearest Korean embassy. That is a huge pain in the a*&. That would be my main complaint. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rumdiary
Joined: 05 Jun 2006
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| bogey666 wrote: |
| Hank the Iconoclast wrote: |
It's all about the immigration officials who never tell you the same thing. Btw, there have been a ton of posts about this.
It doesn't matter for me though, I will be back next year since I am getting married. |
well, having just gone thru this, and about to come to Korea shortly, I have to say the process has been relatively painless (for me anyways), slightly annoying and onerous yes, but not horrid
the interview process at the Consulate was most amusing |
The interview wasn't a big deal because I live 20 minutes from the consulate, so when I got there and they told me I didn't actually have to do the interview I just went home. The other guy I ran into there was dressed up in a suit and had driven from another state. He was pretty pissed. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
