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lapd



Joined: 28 Feb 2008
Location: New York

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: I give up! Reply with quote

Twisted Evil

I give up..for the second time on Korea.

Korea was my first choice when I started out, but after having a job fall through, and other frustrations, I gave up, thinking I was too old.

I got a job in China at a University, where these idiotic age restrictions do not seem to apply. It was an interesting, but difficult experience, and I wanted to make some real money, so I decided to give Korea another try.

After two months of being jerked around, I am ready to give up on the whole thing. The first recruiter (unlike China, everyone who contacts me is a recruiter) was an idiot who barely wrote English, kept changing his mind about what documents I needed and actually emailed me some poor soul's criminal background record as an example of what I needed to do. Of course, I fired him.

I was then dealing with a lovely woman, who spoke perfect English at a large Hagwan. She offered me a contract, which I signed and returned. Since then, she has contacted me twice to tell me the jobs "will not be ready". Obviously, I'm being played for a fool again. Two months wasted and at this point, something like $78 spent on documents and express postage, I've got......bupkis (nothing).

No sarcastic comments please, I'd just like to know what is the problem with Korea? There are millions of people there teaching English, so someone must be getting the jobs, but how? Has anyone gotten a job without going through one of these moron recruiters? And how does one get a University job?

Thanks
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Sody



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, is it possible to get your documents back? It might not be so bad, I have known many recruiters who have sent documents back when it didn't work out. So maybe you can save your shipping costs at least.
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milkweedma



Joined: 15 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try a 'good' recruiter like worknplay.co.kr
im using them now to get a public school job. a lot of people reckon they're very good.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why use recruiters at all?
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you have credentials then you shouldn't have a problem getting a university job

Go to the job postings page on here. there are dozens of websites that post EFL job listings in Korea. In those you should find plenty of University positions.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear of your predicament. I agree with the previous poster, though. If you're shooting for a university job, don't bother with recruiters at all.

If you're looking to 'make some serious money', hakwon jobs are definitely not for you, anyway!

Getting to Korea can be frustrating. Having said that, once you are here...oh, wait...no, it'll just keep getting more frustrating.

But isn't that part of the experience. If we wanted it easy, we'd have stayed 'home'.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: I give up! Reply with quote

lapd wrote:
Twisted Evil

I give up..for the second time on Korea.

Korea was my first choice when I started out, but after having a job fall through, and other frustrations, I gave up, thinking I was too old.

I got a job in China at a University, where these idiotic age restrictions do not seem to apply. It was an interesting, but difficult experience, and I wanted to make some real money, so I decided to give Korea another try.

After two months of being jerked around, I am ready to give up on the whole thing. The first recruiter (unlike China, everyone who contacts me is a recruiter) was an idiot who barely wrote English, kept changing his mind about what documents I needed and actually emailed me some poor soul's criminal background record as an example of what I needed to do. Of course, I fired him.

I was then dealing with a lovely woman, who spoke perfect English at a large Hagwan. She offered me a contract, which I signed and returned. Since then, she has contacted me twice to tell me the jobs "will not be ready". Obviously, I'm being played for a fool again. Two months wasted and at this point, something like $78 spent on documents and express postage, I've got......bupkis (nothing).

No sarcastic comments please, I'd just like to know what is the problem with Korea? There are millions of people there teaching English, so someone must be getting the jobs, but how? Has anyone gotten a job without going through one of these moron recruiters? And how does one get a University job?

Thanks


seriously, don't even bother with hagwons. yes, some are good (a few, very good) but they are hard to find, especially when you are applying from overseas. go with a public school job, they tend to be rather safe but do come with their own hassles (that's just korea).

look into EPIK or GEPIK, they pretty much hire all year round. if you would like to know of a reliable recruiter for public school positions, just let me know. i believe you can also apply directly to the programs though
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it true that because universities and colleges generally offer better employment packages, they don't pay recruiters any finders fee?

So I can see why recruiters cannot be bothered to look for university positions for you. Some recruiters will ask for a cut from your first paycheck as payment.
Hagwons and public schools are more desperate for people, so they use recruiters.

My first job, I contacted Gepik through their website. My second, someone on here kindly emailed me asking if I would like her position when she left.
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote

Juregen writes :

Why use recruiters at all?


errrrr why...not Question Question
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Zaria32



Joined: 04 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old are you?

I'm 62...and yes, lots of Koreans dismiss me out of hand because of my age. But that hasn't stopped me from working here.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

maingman wrote:
Juregen writes :

Why use recruiters at all?


errrrr why...not Question Question


because many will lie their a$$es off to get you on a plane and then will ditch you once they get paid by your employer
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