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[lastat06513]

I think the democratic choices for the Dems are weak and divisive.
They both seem to be playing their perspective cards in their hopes of attracting voters:

Hillary Clinton: Playing the strong woman's card in the hope that this generation would be the turning point of women's role in high-level politics.

Barrack Obama: He is not playing it as much, but he seems to be reserving the race card for when things get desperate.

I am neither a sexist or a racist, however, I feel they are too weak and feeble to win enough votes to be president of the US. I say this because it is taking way too long for the democratic party to nominate a definite candidate (for christ sakes, the Republicans already nominated McCain- who is not going to win anyway because he is seen as continuing the legacy of Bush and the republican war effort)....but I think it is time for the democrats to become united.

I honestly think Al Gore would've made a better choice as a presidential candidate- he actually did well with the things he was tasked to do and he is actually famous for his stance on the environment.
And I am also one of those people who feel that he was cheated out of the presidency because of the cheating done in Florida in favor of Bush.


What do you think?

[Khenan]

Well, Gore is nice and all, but he couldn't even beat Bush... I think McCain is a stronger candidate than Bush was. Maybe neo-Gore, with his shiny Nobel prize on hand, would be a better candidate though.

[Ya-ta Boy]

I think Gore's strongest point is that he doesn't want the presidency as much as the average candidate. That's a good sign just in itself.

I think his biggest weakness is his Nobel Prize. The rape-and-pillage-the-environment crowd would raise billions to keep him out of the White House.

Since I really, really want him to be the president, I'm trying hard not to think about this possibility since someone mentioned others are talking about it again.


Run, Al, run!

[stillnotking]

Obama reserving the race card? Obama is running away from the race card as fast as he can run. It can only hurt him.

I wonder if the Gore boosters remember his almost unbelievably weak and ineffectual 2000 campaign. The guy was running as the de facto incumbent on eight years of peace and prosperity, and lost to a village idiot from Texas. If anyone could lose the 2008 race, it'd be Gore. Might as well renominate Dukakis or something.

Not that it matters, because the chance of Gore being the nominee is effectively zero. Pundits are funny.

[Czarjorge]

I wanted Al Gore to be president... eight years ago. I still can't get over how little he, and me and we, fought about it. So the guilt is on everyone's hands, but I'm not sure I'm over it. I like the Al Gore that does cameos on Futurama. I like the elder statesman Al Gore. I'm not sure I like President Al Gore, though in a choice between a middle right Clinton and a middle left Gore, it's Gore all the way.

And then there's Tipper. If you think First Lady Bill would be bad...

[Ya-ta Boy]

Actually, twelve and sixteen year runs are not very common. The idea of 'fatigue' is quite real. The public seems to think 8 years is enough for one party.

Washington- Adams 12 years

Jefferson - JQ Adams (3 - 6) happened largely because the Federalists committed suicide.

Jackson/Van Buren 12 years

Grant - Arthur. Natural. What Democrat could win in the years right after the Civil War?

Harding - Hoover

Roosevelt-Truman, but Truman inherited the office

Reagan-Bush

That's a very short list out of 43 presidents.

[stillnotking]

[Kuros]

[stillnotking]

[Kuros]

[Justin Hale]

Gore's claim to fame is his environmentalism and, whilst noble and largely correct, is fundamentally and totally false on the most crucial issue - the solution. The Democrats and Left Wing environmentalism can be of absolutely no use whatsoever to us. Actually, they're parasitic. John McCain knows how to fix it. That's how utterly clueless liberals are on the environment and energy policy; when someone who otherwise I agree with on everything, pretty much, screws up so badly as to force me to go Republican.

Here are some debates on this very theme:

http://atomic.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/09/30/al-gore-and-nuclear-power/

http://neinuclearnotes.blogspot.com/2007/03/al-gore-ignores-nuclears-role-in.html

[Milwaukiedave]

I voted no in the poll. Gore doesn't want it and would be dumb to give up all he has accomplished in the last 7 years.

Note: I DID vote for Gore in 2000.

[Funkdafied]

[Ya-ta Boy]

This is not a news flash to anyone, but it seems a reminder is in order: running for president and being president require different skills and different strengths. From all reports, Gore hates campaigning.

I would like to remind people that our modern system of selecting a president is modern. You do remember people used to run 'front porch' campaigns. It means the candidates stayed home and didn't go parading around the country at all. It was considered unseemly. Our current system is media-driven, and in my opinion that is not a good thing. The days of ugly presidents is over. Neither Lincoln, a homely man, nor Taft, at 300 lbs.+ could ever be elected today.

Of all 43 presidents, the man who least wanted to be president was Washington. He even considered accepting the position to give his seal of approval then resigning after a few months. In the end, he worked out OK.

[Adventurer]

Well, I know more about Al Gore than Barrak Obama. Al Gore has more experience, and I admire many things about him. If it's between Al Gore and Hillary Clinton, I would no doubt want Al Gore. In my opinion, Al Gore won 2000. After all, he did win the popular vote, and a full recount of Florida would have put him ahead. Yes, he should have done better than what he did in the election. Also, don't forget two things - there was the Nader factor (I do like Nader as a person), and there were the scandals caused by Bill Clinton. Clinton is partially responsible for the election of George Bush and the defeat of Al Gore. Though I liked Bill Clinton in some ways the scandals are one reason, I am not interested in Hillary as president.