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Cars in Korea: Renting is the new buying
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PeterDragon



Joined: 15 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Cars in Korea: Renting is the new buying Reply with quote

I just had a good experience I'd like to share with the rest of you. I recently got my K-Driver's License. Then I began the Great Car Hunt. I wasn't quite willing to spring for a brand new car, and with every used car I saw for sale it was one of two stories: The car was already taken by the time I called, or I couldn't find the type of car I wanted, since the only kind of car I'm willing to drive with Korean gas prices is a supercompact "smart" car.

Then, through googling, I found Ace Motors in Gimpo. They specialize in selling and long term renting to foreigners, and their website is all n English. "Jonathan" (probably not his real name) speaks perfect English and is a straight shooter. He's renting me a brand new Matiz (50-60 miles per gallon), with an English language GPS and liability coverage for 400,000 won a month. Plus, of course, in the unlikely event of engine or tire problems, the rental company will pay for the repairs.

Yes, that means I don't get to recoup any money by reselling it. On the other hand, a brand-new Matiz with tinted windows, liability insurance and an English language GPS would probably run me about 10 million won. Renting it for the next year and a few months (the amount of time I have left in Korea) only runs me 6 million won total, and who knows what I'd even be able to resell it for if I did buy it. When you have a moving sale, you always sell your car for less than you paid.

Obviously there are some pretty good arguments for buying versus renting, but I'd recommend renting to anyone who feels the need to drive and whose remaining time here is under two years.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Link? Phone number?
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TheChickenLover



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm buying my wife a new top level matiz for her daily commute to work.

It costs around 7.6M won for a new car. 400k a month is highway robbery.

Chicken
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about insurance. Do you have to get that yourself? If so, how?
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KumaraKitty



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We bought a 2002 Matiz in excellent shape and low mileage for 3million and our insurance is 700,000 for a year. They threw in a GPS for free. Service is really cheap here, and we had all new tires put on for 200,000. I think your deal is not so great a deal. Yes, online the new fully loaded Matiz from a dealer is 10mil, but you can get a deal and bargain, there are ways to get them cheaper.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the initial new-buyer's price hit, the resale value on Matiz are very good.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Cars in Korea: Renting is the new buying Reply with quote

PeterDragon wrote:
I just had a good experience ... They specialize in selling and long term renting to foreigners,... a straight shooter

you got snowjobbed... you bought a sales pitch, took it on its face value

did they straight talk you on that high-balled 10 mill Matiz purchaseable online for under 8 mill? did he say you have the option of buying a USED Matiz and getting cheap repairs, pay for insurance and pocket a few thousand dollars to cover for the gas?

straight shooter Laughing ... gawd this brings back memories of my sales jobs during the summers in university.... gull-i-ble

renting an EXPENSIVE import car for 6 months to 12 months could make some sense... but on a Matiz?
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Return Jones



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, I'm glad to see you're happy to have wheels, but that's really an expensive situation you've got yourself into. You could have gotten a half-decent used beater for like 1 million and sold it for a couple hundred thousand when you left. Also, regardless of mileage, gas isn't cheap! Anyway, good luck with the new Matiz.
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PeterDragon



Joined: 15 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
What about insurance. Do you have to get that yourself? If so, how?


Insurance comes with the car. Actually often if you buy a car you buy a years' worth of insurance with it too.

400 K a month is still a-OK with me; though like I said, there are certainly arguments for NOT going my route. I place I certain amount of value on not having to deal with the insurance companies, license plating, titling, manufacturer, etc myself, especially since my Korean's bloody awful. I can always ditch the car if I think I find something better to buy...

Link and phone number for ace motors (Which also sells cars, for those who don't wanna rent):

http://www.acemotors.net/ (Website all in English, with makes, prices, photos)
Phone: 011-654-7777 (the main sales clerk speaks flawless English....)


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seoulsucker



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if I'd do the monthly thing, but it's nice to see they can do all their transactions in English...come in handy for the summer travel season.
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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsucker wrote:
Don't know if I'd do the monthly thing, but it's nice to see they can do all their transactions in English...come in handy for the summer travel season.


Well, like I said, they sell used cars too not just rentals. I really think this a dealer every expat should know about.
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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Cars in Korea: Renting is the new buying Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:


did they straight talk you on that high-balled 10 mill Matiz purchaseable online for under 8 mill? did he say you have the option of buying a USED Matiz and getting cheap repairs, pay for insurance and pocket a few thousand dollars to cover for the gas?


Actually, the guy really pushed me to buy, but I don't want to commit to that just yet. He said if I change my mind, he can sell me a Matiz that's just a few years old for much much cheaper. He was pretty up front that he felt long term rental shouldn't be done for more than just a few months. I also wanted a chance to feel out a Matiz before I decided whether I should buy one; this gives me a few months to make sure these cars are as good as people say.

Fuel economy's been just fine so far, it's far less per month than I found myself spending on cabs, and it's cut almost eight hours off of my weekly commute. (I live and teach wayy the hell out in the sticks...)
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NightSky



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's good if it works for you, but as others have noted it's not the best deal out there.
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TheChickenLover



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New cars come with warranty's. If they break, they are fixed for free. Ntohing new there. Only suckers buy used cars. New is the only way to go if you dont' want the hassle of buying someone else's problems & pay through the nose to fix them.

I will never buy used. It's either new or nothing.

Chicken.
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Return Jones



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheChickenLover wrote:
New cars come with warranty's. If they break, they are fixed for free. Ntohing new there. Only suckers buy used cars. New is the only way to go if you dont' want the hassle of buying someone else's problems & pay through the nose to fix them.

I will never buy used. It's either new or nothing.

Chicken.


Yeah, but we're talking about a Matiz here. The difference between a new and used Matiz is marginal in my books. A lot of used cars, lease returns for example, come with decent warranty. At least they do back home.
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