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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: Korea: Unsafe Country? |
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Korea Joins Unsafe Countries
Donga.com (March 28, 2008)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2008032840348
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... According to the report, as of 2004, out of 100,000 people, Mexico top the list with 13 murder victims, followed by the U.S. (5.6), Turkey (3.8), Slovakia (2.7), Switzerland (2.6), Portugal (2.6), Czech (2.3) and Hungary (2.3). Compared to these places, Korea was safer.
Korea has been deemed a safe nation because it outlaws the possession of guns. But the results showed that Korea is not as safe as it was thought to be.
Canada, Poland, Australia and Germany all had less than two victims every 100,000 people and the Netherlands, Austria and Luxemburg had less than one. Japan was found to be the safest with the smallest number of 0.5. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| Could you imagine how nuts it would be if guns were legal here? |
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newteacher
Joined: 31 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: |
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I find it hard to believe that Russia isn't higher on that list.
Although, if you think about it that list is kind of silly, because the countries with the highest rate probably aren't honest in reporting the real statistics. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| newteacher wrote: |
| I find it hard to believe that Russia isn't higher on that list. |
I don't find it hard to believe that Russia isn't even on the list. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Korea: Unsafe Country? |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
Korea Joins Unsafe Countries
Donga.com (March 28, 2008)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2008032840348
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... According to the report, as of 2004, out of 100,000 people, Mexico top the list with 13 murder victims, followed by the U.S. (5.6), Turkey (3. , Slovakia (2.7), Switzerland (2.6), Portugal (2.6), Czech (2.3) and Hungary (2.3). Compared to these places, Korea was safer.
Korea has been deemed a safe nation because it outlaws the possession of guns. But the results showed that Korea is not as safe as it was thought to be.
Canada, Poland, Australia and Germany all had less than two victims every 100,000 people and the Netherlands, Austria and Luxemburg had less than one. Japan was found to be the safest with the smallest number of 0.5. |
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Don't tell my mom. |
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partialtone
Joined: 27 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, I wish they would dig a little bit deeper with this one.
Haha, an interesting side note; picture a murder taking place in Mexico, then the USA, then Turkey, then Switzerland. I'm not exactly getting the same scenario for each country  |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| newteacher wrote: |
I find it hard to believe that Russia isn't higher on that list.
Although, if you think about it that list is kind of silly, because the countries with the highest rate probably aren't honest in reporting the real statistics. |
Yep!
"Guns! What guns.......?"
"We enjoy just fishing here, my friend." |
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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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So, am I going to be the only one to point out the utter ridiculousness of judging a country's safety rating solely on the number of gun murders?
Korea is sorely lacking when it comes to safety in many, many areas.
Lack of guns in the public's hands does not make a country safe!
As racetraitor said, if Koreans had guns, this place would be a real shoot 'em up. Gun violence would go through the roof.
Yes, the U.S. has a problem with gun violence. However, the general public is for more responisble with them than some other societies- Cambodia, South Africa or most of Africa, South America, etc.
Koreans with guns would be a friggin' nightmare! |
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Cerriowen
Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Location: Pocheon
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Benicio wrote: |
| So, am I going to be the only one to point out the utter ridiculousness of judging a country's safety rating solely on the number of gun murders? |
Read it again dude.
Doesn't say "gun" murders. It says murders. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Dome Vans wrote: |
| newteacher wrote: |
I find it hard to believe that Russia isn't higher on that list.
Although, if you think about it that list is kind of silly, because the countries with the highest rate probably aren't honest in reporting the real statistics. |
Yep!
"Guns! What guns.......?"
"We enjoy just fishing here, my friend." |
If you read more closely, you'd know that Russia is not an OECD country, and thus wasn't studied in this report. |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Korea: Unsafe Country? |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
Korea Joins Unsafe Countries
Donga.com (March 28, 2008)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2008032840348
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... According to the report, as of 2004, out of 100,000 people, Mexico top the list with 13 murder victims, followed by the U.S. (5.6), Turkey (3.8), Slovakia (2.7), Switzerland (2.6), Portugal (2.6), Czech (2.3) and Hungary (2.3). Compared to these places, Korea was safer.
Korea has been deemed a safe nation because it outlaws the possession of guns. But the results showed that Korea is not as safe as it was thought to be.
Canada, Poland, Australia and Germany all had less than two victims every 100,000 people and the Netherlands, Austria and Luxemburg had less than one. Japan was found to be the safest with the smallest number of 0.5. |
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| newteacher wrote: |
I find it hard to believe that Russia isn't higher on that list.
Although, if you think about it that list is kind of silly, because the countries with the highest rate probably aren't honest in reporting the real statistics. |
The report is only about the 30 member countries of the OECD, all of whom are either developed or developing countries:
http://www.sb05.com/OECDJ.html
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| Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Korea, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovak Republic, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States |
Ninth-Most-Dangerous actually isn't so bad, considering that they're keeping company with model countries. What is shocking is that the United States is Number Two, with more than twice the rate of Slovakia.
As another poster said, thank Goodness that gun ownership is controlled here. |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| does a high suicide rate help lower murder numbers? do suicides count as murders? |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Ever seen The Wire? Police departments sometimes massage the statistics. For example, an ambiguous death might be classified as a suicide when it might be a murder, because murders have to be solved. If you have more unsolved murders than solved murders at the end of the quarter, you're "in the red" and that makes you look like incompetent cops. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Korea: Unsafe Country? |
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| Troll_Bait wrote: |
Ninth-Most-Dangerous actually isn't so bad, considering that they're keeping company with model countries. What is shocking is that the United States is Number Two, with more than twice the rate of Slovakia.
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Why is it shocking that Mexico beat the US? |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:47 am Post subject: Re: Korea: Unsafe Country? |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
Why is it shocking that Mexico beat the US? |
For anyone who reads the news, it shouldn't be. Mexico's a fucking free for all. In some parts of Mexico, you have to worry about the cops more than the criminals. |
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