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It's His Fault Because He's A Foreigner
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: It's His Fault Because He's A Foreigner Reply with quote

I was driving to work today, in Seoul, and some SM5 decided to change lane without signaling. The car then caused a big dent, with my car, in the passenger door.

I got out to inspect and had my camera phone to take some pictures of his car and mine. I then got back in the car and phoned the insurance people and my brother in law.

Everyone got to the scene and the other driver was blaming me because "I am foreign and don't know how to drive in Korea". The insurance people decided to do their quick investigation and concluded that the other driver was at fault. My brother in law explained to the other driver that I had been driving for a very long time in all parts of the world and he was at fault as he never signaled and his car had hit mine in the side. The insurers also mentioned this to him but he was furious to lose face to a foreign face.

So now they took my car and the man is adamant that he is not going to pay for repairs. My insurers said that they would take him to court to pay for all the repairs and should relax. Luckily for me, I have a hire car for the time being and everyone was really nice to me. Unlucky for the other driver who is prepared to not to pay considering the overwhelming evidence of his fault and his insurers pleading him to pay.

Korean logic. Rolling Eyes
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sucks, but you do realize that you totally put the dude in his place (better yet, others did it for you).

Now's when you find out it's his fault, but your insurance will pay 49% of the damages. This is why it pays to have good insurance in Korea. If he were driving a really expensive car, you could, in theory, have to pay him a lot more for the accident even though it was his fault.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: It's His Fault Because He's A Foreigner Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:
I was driving to work today,


And this is why this is in the job-related forum?

At any rate, if you weren't a foreigner it probably would have been because you're too young or too old or a woman, etc. Some people just lack the dignity to realise that they'll be more respected if they own up when they're wrong.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
That sucks, but you do realize that you totally put the dude in his place (better yet, others did it for you).

Now's when you find out it's his fault, but your insurance will pay 49% of the damages. This is why it pays to have good insurance in Korea. If he were driving a really expensive car, you could, in theory, have to pay him a lot more for the accident even though it was his fault.


I worry about this. I drive a cheap motorcycle and assume one day I'm gonna have some asshat pull out in front of me and wreck my bike and dent his BMW.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
That sucks, but you do realize that you totally put the dude in his place (better yet, others did it for you).

Now's when you find out it's his fault, but your insurance will pay 49% of the damages. This is why it pays to have good insurance in Korea. If he were driving a really expensive car, you could, in theory, have to pay him a lot more for the accident even though it was his fault.


I worry about this. I drive a cheap motorcycle and assume one day I'm gonna have some asshat pull out in front of me and wreck my bike and dent his BMW.


Just lie on the ground and act dead. He'll soon drive off.
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BE, I totally understand where you are coming from and normally those drivers who have an accident do have those 49/51 ratios for damage and repair. However, when a motorist does something "illegal" and the motorist confirms this to insurers and tries to go back on what he said, the ratios don't mean a thing.

Luckily for me my brother-in-law was with me and he was able to express what I wanted to in Korean and he was able to listen to what happened. Unfortunately, I am without my i30 for a few days whilst it gets it factory paneling sorted out.

For me, the cost is minimal (just petrol money for the hire car). The only place that hit was along my side and the SM5 had some small scratches on the front corner of the car. I used to be a painter for vehicles and I can tell it is a very small job. It is just a respray for the black and varnish so it is cheap as chips.

My car, a big panel needs to come off and then replaced at his expense. Apologies if this is in the wrong forum but I thought I put this in the General Forum.

The only thing that annoys me is that this numbnut blames me 'cos I am not Korean. "If I ain't Korean, I can't drive" is his logic. Why? Sad
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

About a month ago I had a Korean driver backing out of a one way street (he realized he was going the wrong way when he created a log jam at the intersection I guess) back into me. I was going the proper way of course and had beeped my horn several times prior to him hitting my car Laughing . He didn't cause much damage to my car, but I insisted that he call his insurance company. He was very apologetic the whole while. They came out right away and determined that it was his fault. His insurance arranged pick up for my car 2 days later and repaired it the same day (minimal damage only, but they painted the door, quarter panel, and rear bumper). I was quite pleased with the outcome.
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy April Fools Wink
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
That sucks, but you do realize that you totally put the dude in his place (better yet, others did it for you).

Now's when you find out it's his fault, but your insurance will pay 49% of the damages. This is why it pays to have good insurance in Korea. If he were driving a really expensive car, you could, in theory, have to pay him a lot more for the accident even though it was his fault.


I worry about this. I drive a cheap motorcycle and assume one day I'm gonna have some asshat pull out in front of me and wreck my bike and dent his BMW.


Just lie on the ground and act dead. He'll soon drive off.



Truer words have never been spoken Very Happy Well, sometimes they do...stop...there are some really good Korean people out there...just hard to find through all the messy ones.
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my own experience I can tell you this:
1. The other party who caused the accident will lie big time.
2. The police will bend over backwards to mysteriously find evidence confirming the foreigner is at fault.
3. The police will totally ignore evidence that shows the Korean is at fault.
4. There's a good chance that witnesses who just happen to be Korean will have a long chat (before the police arrive) and will side with the Korean driver.
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Benicio



Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good friend of mine was blind sided by a Korean driver-

Friend had the right of way on the main street, most likely drunk K driver blasts out of a side street and slams into the side of his car.
Turns out the offending driver was a K professor at the school that my friend teaches at, but they don't know each other.
Police and insurance guys are called and the K driver disappears.
Police arrive to "investigate" while a few of the K professor's students show up to explain what happened. The K professor is nowhere to be found because he most likely has alcohol on his breath.
The police do not make any attempt to locate the K professor/driver.

Result: even though the K driver was in the wrong, the police determined that "it could not be entirely his fault". They stated my friend should have been "more careful". My friend had to pay 40%

Next, my friend goes looking for this professor around his school. Later, his bosses have a meeting with him and tell him that he should drop the matter and not cause any trouble at the school.
Well, he weighed the situation and did not feel like getting fired and looking for a new job & place to live.
It sucks, but he felt like it just wasn't worth all the trouble it could cause him to pursue the jerk who hit him and ran away.

If it had happened to me, I would have plotted some very sneaky revenge!


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Benicio



Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP,

he tried the "blame the foreigner" argument because he thought it just might work.

Sadly, it does work from time to time!
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:
Happy April Fools Wink


That's...it?
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
Whistleblower wrote:
Happy April Fools Wink


That's...it?


Lamest April fools ever. A story about getting a dent in your car??!!!
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lucas_p



Joined: 17 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was an April Fool's joke, also not cool to have it be about an angry Korean who is stereotypically against foreigners like that......
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