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Korean style teaching can kill you....
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Korean style teaching can kill you.... Reply with quote

Here's a recent story of a 47 year old high school teacher in Cheongju who would go into work at 7am and leave at 11pm. A 16 hour day. He had been doing that for 8 years before he dropped dead.

Korean only. A translation would be great.
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=001&oid=098&aid=0001954162&


I'm constantly amazed at how hard some Koreans push themselves. This education system here has some serious issues. Teachers and students are suffering too much.
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Cerriowen



Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Location: Pocheon

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did he *really* die from working too much?

Or did he die from closing the windows in his classroom and sufficated?
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cerriowen wrote:
Or did he die from closing the windows in his classroom and sufficated?

With the fan on!
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I will say that public school teachers can put in some long hours...but suffering? I like my co-teachers, but they are some of the laziest people I've met. The bed in the nurse's office is nearly always occupied with a teacher "doing prep" in his/her free periods. As well, a stash of beer and soju is kept in my office for nights where the teachers must "work late." And just today all our classes were shortened to 30 minutes and the students sent home at lunchtime so that the teachers could all go on a "business trip" to a nearby school and play volleyball, eat out, and get drunk together tonight...
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We did a half day last wednesday so the teachers could have a social and still leave at 5.
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bovinerebel



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well I will say that public school teachers can put in some long hours...but suffering? I like my co-teachers, but they are some of the laziest people I've met. The bed in the nurse's office is nearly always occupied with a teacher "doing prep" in his/her free periods. As well, a stash of beer and soju is kept in my office for nights where the teachers must "work late." And just today all our classes were shortened to 30 minutes and the students sent home at lunchtime so that the teachers could all go on a "business trip" to a nearby school and play volleyball, eat out, and get drunk together tonight...


Right. I'm putting in for a job!
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agoodmouse



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, public high school teachers, especially those at schools whose work hours run from 8am to 10:30pm, are suffering. I wonder what percentage of high schools require students to stay until 10:30pm? I've heard a great many do. Anyone know?
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well I will say that public school teachers can put in some long hours...but suffering? I like my co-teachers, but they are some of the laziest people I've met



Well, that's what I was just talking about to my Korean co-worker. Foreigners see a free class as an opportunity to get something done. Koreans see it as a chance to sleep. She didn't take it too well............ Laughing Truth hurts!
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agoodmouse wrote:
Well, public high school teachers, especially those at schools whose work hours run from 8am to 10:30pm, are suffering. I wonder what percentage of high schools require students to stay until 10:30pm? I've heard a great many do. Anyone know?


Basically, for 3rd year of high school, anything goes. The 3rd year in my school stay until at least 10pm at night. Usually 11. The teacher in the story was a 3rd year HS teacher.
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mikeyboy122



Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: time Reply with quote

My hours in public are 10-6. Then see ya. Never more than three or four classes a day. On friday, none. Just speaking practice at three. boring, but banking. No complaints here.
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curlygirl



Joined: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Pundang, Seohyeon dong

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't confuse time spent at work with "working". I put in my 20 teaching hours a week and do tons of prep during the other 20 hours (public school normally = 40 hours a week). My fellow teachers? Well they put in a lot more hours of 'bum on seat' time but I very much doubt they do more actual work than me. While I'm doing the head down bum up prep, they're doing the head down, on a pillow, snoring their head off time. But to listen to them talk..."Oooh I worked till 9 p.m. last night, ooh poor me." Oh really? And how many of those hours did you sleep for eh?
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I read somewhere that despite the long Korean working days, the actual productivity rate is a lot less than Western countries. Just because you're at work, doesn't mean you're actually working. Sitting in front of a computer playing games and chatting on your cell phone might as well constitute work here.

If it was as dire as you assume, then Korea would have no economic reason to sell entertainment or leisurely devices. But it does.
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
Yes, I read somewhere that despite the long Korean working days, the actual productivity rate is a lot less than Western countries. Just because you're at work, doesn't mean you're actually working. Sitting in front of a computer playing games and chatting on your cell phone might as well constitute work here.

If it was as dire as you assume, then Korea would have no economic reason to sell entertainment or leisurely devices. But it does.


Published reports for the developed countries of the world confirm this. Korea is always at the top for hours worked during the day and rank near the bottom in productivity during those hours.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my adult phone students told me that he works from 7 to 10. I told him that's insane, and mentioned that it must be bad for his children (11 and 13 years old I think). He seemed to think it would be better for them if he worked his ass off to have money for their education, rather than raise them and act as a role model.
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
One of my adult phone students told me that he works from 7 to 10. I told him that's insane, and mentioned that it must be bad for his children (11 and 13 years old I think). He seemed to think it would be better for them if he worked his ass off to have money for their education, rather than raise them and act as a role model.


The family dynamics here are just a little different from what we are used to I guess. Laughing
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