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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:15 am Post subject: The Darfur Thread |
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OK, this is written in very simple language so as not to exclude those with serious reading comprehension difficulties.
What the Janjaweed are doing is terrible.
They are committing horrific attrocities against men, women and innocent children. This is terrible.
Nobody seems to be doing much about it. This is terrible.
There is no excuse for the coldblooded murder of innocent civillians. It is terrible.
Discuss. |
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daskalos
Joined: 19 May 2006
Location: The Road to Ithaca
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| Right on all counts. The reason nothing is being done about it is that no vital, strategic resources are at stake. No international alliances stand to be destablized because of it. The most it's likely to get, ever, is a lot of handwringing from the powers that be around the world, which only adds some squared level of terrible-ness to the whole situation. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| daskalos wrote: |
| Right on all counts. The reason nothing is being done about it is that no vital, strategic resources are at stake. No international alliances stand to be destablized because of it. The most it's likely to get, ever, is a lot of handwringing from the powers that be around the world, which only adds some squared level of terrible-ness to the whole situation. |
Yes, that's about right.
Now just imagine that the 'AFricans' in this conflict were in possession of something we felt would be more beneficial to us in the hands of the 'Arabs' in this conflict. Then of course, any 'African' who resisted would be a terrorist, and the poor long suffering Janjaweed would be quite vindicated in their small contributions toward the 'War on Terror.' |
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daskalos
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| daskalos wrote: |
| Right on all counts. The reason nothing is being done about it is that no vital, strategic resources are at stake. No international alliances stand to be destablized because of it. The most it's likely to get, ever, is a lot of handwringing from the powers that be around the world, which only adds some squared level of terrible-ness to the whole situation. |
Yes, that's about right.
Now just imagine that the 'AFricans' in this conflict were in possession of something we felt would be more beneficial to us in the hands of the 'Arabs' in this conflict. Then of course, any 'African' who resisted would be a terrorist, and the poor long suffering Janjaweed would be quite vindicated in their small contributions toward the 'War on Terror.' |
Yes, a nasty little point you make, isn't it? And then some Americans wonder why the world is so cynical about America's motives on the world stage. To the extent that even when we're trying to do something right, good and necessary for the betterment of the world, people don't trust us to do anything except in our own, greedy interests. It's very sad. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: Re: The Darfur Thread |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
OK, this is written in very simple language so as not to exclude those with serious reading comprehension difficulties.
What the Janjaweed are doing is terrible.
They are committing horrific attrocities against men, women and innocent children. This is terrible.
Nobody seems to be doing much about it. This is terrible.
There is no excuse for the coldblooded murder of innocent civillians. It is terrible.
Discuss. |
What's your plan to deal with it?
I think to the mass majority of all people in the world, its regarded as bad. The question is not is it bad or not.. but what is a solution to this problem? |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:02 am Post subject: Re: The Darfur Thread |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
OK, this is written in very simple language so as not to exclude those with serious reading comprehension difficulties.
What the Janjaweed are doing is terrible.
They are committing horrific attrocities against men, women and innocent children. This is terrible.
Nobody seems to be doing much about it. This is terrible.
There is no excuse for the coldblooded murder of innocent civillians. It is terrible.
Discuss. |
What's your plan to deal with it?
I think to the mass majority of all people in the world, its regarded as bad. The question is not is it bad or not.. but what is a solution to this problem? |
Ah Tiger Beer! You are touching on the purpose of this little exercise...getting warm...warmer... |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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The US tried that in Somalia if you remember correctly.
What resources were at stake there?
The African Union is capable of taking this
situation in the correct direction.
The attitude of the Sudanese Gov't towards
the AU Mission needs a good hard look also.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Union_Mission_in_Sudan |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: Re: The Darfur Thread |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
OK, this is written in very simple language so as not to exclude those with serious reading comprehension difficulties.
What the Janjaweed are doing is terrible.
They are committing horrific attrocities against men, women and innocent children. This is terrible.
Nobody seems to be doing much about it. This is terrible.
There is no excuse for the coldblooded murder of innocent civillians. It is terrible.
Discuss. |
What's your plan to deal with it?
I think to the mass majority of all people in the world, its regarded as bad. The question is not is it bad or not.. but what is a solution to this problem? |
Ah Tiger Beer! You are touching on the purpose of this little exercise...getting warm...warmer... |
No clue to the point of your exercise. I guess you are having an online spat with someone else, and trying to make a point with them?
Once its made with that person, can you let us know the result and purpose! |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.�
(Al Einstein)
I think the tigerbeer has a point. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: The Darfur Thread |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
OK, this is written in very simple language so as not to exclude those with serious reading comprehension difficulties.
What the Janjaweed are doing is terrible.
They are committing horrific attrocities against men, women and innocent children. This is terrible.
Nobody seems to be doing much about it. This is terrible.
There is no excuse for the coldblooded murder of innocent civillians. It is terrible.
Discuss. |
What's your plan to deal with it?
I think to the mass majority of all people in the world, its regarded as bad. The question is not is it bad or not.. but what is a solution to this problem? |
Ah Tiger Beer! You are touching on the purpose of this little exercise...getting warm...warmer... |
"This little exercise" is a tantrum from a cowardly woman. One who only ever speaks in code for fear of having to actually defend her own position (ex. "touching on the purpose" when the purpose is to finally just get it out there that she actually does believe the lives of brown people have value because she is embarrassed).
Should the moment grab her and she is able to mumble and stutter out one of her actual opinions (such as her fondness for uncle hugo) she will quickly retract it for fear of being outed as the left-tard she actually is. "What, me? nooo, I don't believe that! I only said I support that! I don't actually support it!" and so on and so on.
All of this idiocy hidden behind a veil of smugness and low-class white-trash British slang that only the most miserable of incompetents could actually think humorous.
And the cankles. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| No clue to the point of your exercise. |
I think the point of the exercise is to satirize people who think that leftists support bad things that as long as they are done by non-westerners. Her mock serious tone is meant to ridicule those who demand that leftists take explicit stands against things that everyone knows to be wrong. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: The Darfur Thread |
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| And the cankles. |
Ouch... |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Islamic expansionism and ethnic cleansing has been going on in Africa for a long time.
Ideally I would say Sudan and even Nigeria should be split in two, with muslims sticking to the north and a big wall put up to keep them there. |
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Interested
Joined: 10 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
Islamic expansionism and ethnic cleansing has been going on in Africa for a long time.
Ideally I would say Sudan and even Nigeria should be split in two, with muslims sticking to the north and a big wall put up to keep them there. |
I might point out that the OP is concerned with Darfur. Curios that you would bring up Islamic expansionism or suggest that the problem be solved by splitting Sudan along lines of religion.
Ahem. Newsflash. The victims of the muslim Janjaweed in Darfur are muslim. |
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Interested
Joined: 10 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:14 am Post subject: Re: The Darfur Thread |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
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| And the cankles. |
Ouch... |
Ah, compensating for your mediocre debating skills by making fun of someone's body parts, BJWD? Looks like you haven't refined your debating technique since kindegarten. One can just imagine the little BJWD running about the playground calling out "Big Ears!" and "Fatty" any time someone appeared to be getting the best of him.
Well done, sonny. |
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