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New study shows most Korean kids are doomed
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: New study shows most Korean kids are doomed Reply with quote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080407/ts_nm/sleep_children_dc_3

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Too little childhood sleep tied to later problems

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Getting too little sleep doubles a young child's risk of being overweight and raises the chances of later anxiety and depression, researchers said on Monday.
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Several studies published in the journal Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine add heft to the notion that getting enough sleep has wide-ranging health benefits.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 years of hell in high school, 2 years of jack shit in university, 2 years of horribly time wasting crap in the army, then 2 more years of trying to cram all the necessary stuff for graduation. Then add in corporate life here, and being fat is the least of their problems Smile
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PeteJB



Joined: 06 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea has been the same for a long time with studying, work, school hours etc... Infact it's probably a little more lax now. So...

Do you see many chubby kids around?

... And if so, do you see many chubby teenagers and young adults?
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeteJB, I see a lot of fat Korean kids. Lotteria culture is on the way in. And ajummas and ajosshis aren't that thin either. Lots of them have potbellies.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to mention that all the time they spend studying is wasted if they don't sleep enough. Sleep is the key to long term retention of things in memory.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marlow wrote:
Not to mention that all the time they spend studying is wasted if they don't sleep enough. Sleep is the key to long term retention of things in memory.


Very true, and something Korean parents should be aware of. They seem to think 5 hours of sleep is enough to fuel their children for 12 hours plus of school, hagwon and homework.
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not many Koreans I've asked remember their childhood before even 7 years old. That kind of surprised me. I was put to bed early as a child, and can still remember things that could only possibly happened when my younger sister was just born, so I would have been just a little over 3 years old. I even remember the day she was born... Maybe certain things trigger in us to remember? Sleep is very important, as it organises the thoughts in your mind... "defrags" your brain, per se.

What's your oldest memory? I think mine is chewing ice in the hospital waiting room, and seeing a new baby when I was only 2 years/eleven months old. That baby turned out to be my sister. I also remember dangling jingle bells in front of my baby sister during Christmas, so I would have been like 3 years and two months old then...
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I remember visiting my newborn brother and my mother in the hospital. I remember seeing my brother in his glass box of a crib in the room with my mother. And I remember the day my father brought my mother and my brother home. That would have been a little more than two weeks before my third birthday.

The lack of sleep seems to undermine a great bit of the cramming Koreans do.
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Miles Rationis



Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Just Say No To Korea!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suffer from Chronic Insomnia in Korea; I know all about how too little sleep affects you...

I am hoping it will improve upon leaving this country...
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PeteJB



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on, Fat here is barely the equivalent to "chubby" in many Western countries. Korea has a LONG way to go.
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DrunkenMaster



Joined: 04 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miles Rationis wrote:
I suffer from Chronic Insomnia in Korea; I know all about how too little sleep affects you...

I am hoping it will improve upon leaving this country...


You'll be fine once you get a steady supply of pot again
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...I've noticed the lack of childhood memory here.

I have a grade 7 student who lived in England for two years during Elementary School. She can't remember very much about it. She can't even remember what city she lived in.

Not enough sleep leads to all sorts of problems and doctors really need to jump on this one here. Lack of retention is the biggest one as someone already mentioned. Students and workers are inefficient due to lack of sleep (and lets face it...Korean work culture is inefficient).

Now, with the fact that it could lead to problems later on--this needs to be changed.
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Zolt



Joined: 18 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazy_arcade wrote:

I have a grade 7 student who lived in England for two years during Elementary School. She can't remember very much about it. She can't even remember what city she lived in.


C'mon if you throw a elem school kid in a foreign country with a stange language, of course she's going to get confused about it. I don't know many adults who have crystal clear memories of their toddler days too.

That said yes, I'm not sure I could survive the schedule of a korean 12 years old for long. It was already crazy in the first place, the presure to speak english has only added to the nonsense
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeteJB wrote:
Korea has been the same for a long time with studying, work, school hours etc... Infact it's probably a little more lax now. So...

Do you see many chubby kids around?


I did yes.

But the fallacy of your argument is your unstated major premise that all of Korea has been the same for a long time. While Korea has been the same for a long time in terms of, say, studying/late nights (I'll assume that's true but actually I would wonder if 10 year olds in 1985 had the same pressures), it has not been the same in terms of what's on the pantry shelf and in the convenience stores or the amount of money in a kid's pocket.

It's pretty hard for a kid to get fat if he's eating rice and fish and can't pop around the GS25 with 500 won and buy a Twinkie. Food carts outside of schools used to maybe sell odeng but now sell sausages deep fried in batter and then refried with a coat of french fries.

What do you got to say to that?
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ryouga013



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sleep is not the only thing that is dooming the children, but I'd rather not get too far into it....

(they are being raised by ajosshi etc....)
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