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Acceptable Extra Work Hours At School Outside Of Class

 
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Novalis



Joined: 19 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 7:48 pm    Post subject: Acceptable Extra Work Hours At School Outside Of Class Reply with quote

Right now I�m dealing with the recruiting company Julice Ltd. They just sent me the hours for a potential job. The teaching schedule would be from 6:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. and from 6:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. from Monday to Friday. That adds up to 45 hours a week. Something doesn�t sound right here to me. Either they really want to overwork me in the classroom, or they expect me to do a lot of work outside of class. Are my instincts right? Do you think they�re trying to get away with overworking me, or is 45 hours a week spent at school common? How many extra work hours at school outside of classroom teaching hours should I accept/put up with? Also, does anyone have any experience with Julice Ltd. Are they reputable? Thank you.
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canuckistan
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not accept this lunacy. Try to find another recruiter too.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:44 pm    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

It is a split shift, clearly. It doesn't mean you have to teach all of those hours, just means you have to be at the school.

It could be good, depending on your reasons for being in Korea. It will give you a lot of time in the afternoon to pursue other interests. It will kill your evening social life.
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blah



Joined: 08 May 2003
Location: Ulsan, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Canuckistan. This is not good. This deal sucks, big time. Trust your instincts on this one.
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katydid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at this! They want you to be working at 6:30 a.m....and then ask you to finish at 9:30. I personally would be needing to get up at 5 a.m. every morning to get ready for and then go to work. If I want my nice happy 8 hours of sleep, then I will have to be in bed at 9 p.m. every night. Not only will I be missing the 8 hours of sleep I ideally need by working until 9:30, who the hell comes home from work and goes immediately to bed? I'd probably be in bed by 11 at the earliest. I need time to wind down after work, especially if I am dealing with kids.
It's a harsh schedule. I don't know about you but I could not handle this. I can just see my evaluations, especially for the morning classes: "Katydid teacher seems awfully cranky." "Katydid really sucks the energy out of the room." "Katydid broke down crying when she saw there was no blue chalk. I'm scared of Katydid teacher."
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crazylemongirl



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My short answer is, no find something else.

It will play havoc with your sleeping patterns otherwise.

CLG
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
My short answer is, no find something else.

It will play havoc with your sleeping patterns otherwise.

CLG


Horrible lies. I've been doing some temporary work at an adult school that does the 6:30am-12:00pm thing. Anyway, I get home from my regular job at 9pm. Bum around on the computer for a couple hours, in bed by 11. Get up at 5:45, and head to work at 6:15am.

Morning adult classes at these schools are usually "come talk to the foreigner". Literally, we sit and discuss whatever we want. Last night's TV shows, something I print off the Internet, pictures from my last trip, etc. Then a 2 hour break to hit the PC room and do some work, back to work at 10am for a couple hours and then you're free until the night. Korean teachers handle the classes involving grammar.

If I wasn't already committed in one job, I would have taken the adult job fulltime and rocked on. And previously I was not a morning person. Plus I notice I get a lot more done during the day as I have a giant block of time to do things instead of sitting around in the evening or morning and thinking "I would do something if I had more time".


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crazylemongirl



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was doing similar hours when I was doing temp work back home. Granted I wasn't teaching but restocking shelves, but it hit me for six. I will never do those sort of hours again.

CLG
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Gord



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
I was doing similar hours when I was doing temp work back home. Granted I wasn't teaching but restocking shelves, but it hit me for six. I will never do those sort of hours again.


Real work and "How's your coffee?" are completely different. I used to do morning work before coming to Korea and I very much disliked it to a level I cannot possibly explain, but the morning job talking to adults is pretty easy.

So now that they've asked me to stay on for another three weeks again (I was to have finished almost a month ago), I didn't complain at all. But if the job was real work like teaching kindergarten or grammar, I would have stood up and said screw that noise as I am not a morning person normally.
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