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katydid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:21 pm    Post subject: Dumped.. Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad

In the interest of trying not to create a conflict of interest as I know many people I work with post on here, I'll be brief, and try not to launch into any Big Tirades. Those I will save for my family and friends.
I was told yesterday that at the end of February, I will be let go of my job. I totally didn't see this coming, and I really wasn't told WHY they were letting me go.
I feel really sad because I really liked this job AND thought I was doing all right in it.
Of course I am looking for other jobs, uni level and even hagwan. I planned on staying only one more year in Korea before going back home somewhere, so that will be taken care of. But can anyone please tell me how I can maintain a positive attitude for the next three months, so I don't shoot what might be a good review from my school in the foot. It's hard not to be sad and angry now, and just say "hell with the lessons." If anyone has had any experience in being let go from a job you liked, please post here or better yet, PM me.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Dumped.. Reply with quote

The thing about us ESL teachers is that we never worked for the bosses anyway, screw them, we do our best for the students. EFL bosses are just greedy robbers the world over, but that isn't the students' fault. It shouldn't make any difference to you, and I say that with the greatest respect for you.

I don't know about you, and it sounds real smug but not intended as such, but I use negative experiences positively. I use them to motivate me; so in your shoes, I would work my arse off for the next three months, make them ask you to stay so you can refuse, come out on top, immaculate and super confident. Make them regret deciding to can you, show them truly, what you are worth. Three months from now I hope that you are feeling like her majesty the queen in all her regal splendour.

Go Katy, Pighting!!!
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When was your contract suppose to be up?

Hmm.. that is a really really advanced notice.. and its cold out and everything else.. I'd wrap things up earlier.. get the hell out for a month or two.. and pop up later in Seoul..
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Hotel Cheonan



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: Gwangju

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger does bring up a good point. You don't really know whether they're going to send you packing now, or actually wait until Feb. My advice, continue like business as usual, if things start to go screwy, then get the hell out of dodge. Take a break, relax . . .

Sorry about the bummer news
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems you have 2 problems
1) not going upside the head of your boss and
2) doing well for your students.

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But can anyone please tell me how I can maintain a positive attitude for the next three months


1) My advice is the same for all situations in Korea: don't take it personally. Whenever my old boss gave me $hit, I just reminded myself that A) he was an idiot that had everything handed to him and B) he had no idea what he was talking about. Think about all of the bad ideas perpetrated by your boss and focus on how letting you go is one of those bad ideas. Villify him/her. It's pejorative, but it got me through my contract.

2) Divorce your feelings about leaving from your students. They have nothing to do with it (unless they're adults). Think how much better off they are with you than with some EFL monkey down the road. Then just keep on trying your best in the classroom.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooopss.. as to my previous reply.. didn't realize you'd be getting severance and the full thing.. just not a renewal.

I change my answer.. you should definetely stick it out and have fun. You'll get a nice vacation afterwards in February.. and free to go anywhere again.. its a good feeling.. even though it might not seem like that to you now..


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kimcheeking
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you are at a university. Yeah it is standard for uni's to give advance notice so that you can find another position and they can hire ppl. uni hiring season is full on now.

I wouldn't worry about the severance. if you are at a uni and complete your contract in feb you will get it.

good luck in the job hunt - I know it sucks to get dropped but I'm sure you will find something better.

KK
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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: Dumped.. Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
Three months from now I hope that you are feeling like her majesty the queen in all her regal splendour.


That's right, Kate. Take a good look at the building your office and classes are in. Just imagine it is a palace Wink , and you are the queen Laughing .
And me and the other chickens are your loyal subjects. Very Happy
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katydid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thank you all for your support and kindness

TB, it sounds like you are ready to go down to Gwangju and rumble for me, but I am being told they will not renew my contract, not that I am kicked to the curb completely. In the past, others here have posted that the office manager who'll take care of everything rocks. As long as I don't go stupid, I have no reason to believe my uni will go shady on me. And yes, it is lucky (I guess) I have three months to look for a job.
I'm trying to look at this as a positive thing (well, positive down the road anyways). I believe things happen for a reason. Who knows, I may have to work longer hours, but I may get paid better, and chances are good I will have cable TV right off the bat and hot water 24/7, and be closer to Starbucks downtown. It's all about the good things in life.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one K-did: Its important not to take it personally, because from what i've seen, korean directors usually make decisions based on factors quite irrelevant to your teaching abilities. Its all about money, image, networking, etc etc.
I was "replaced" last year, my director told me he was sorry but he thought It'd be a master business plan to hire a blonde, blue -eyed American to help pull in extra students.
he went out of his way to help me with all issues surrounding my severance etc.
now i hear several people note what a superb teacher i was there- that there have been no new students at all since i left, the new guy doesn't give a dam about the job, and the old boss wants me to call him etc....
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear that, Katydid. But your employer has a long history of doing things like that. You know well that I really do think things happen for a reason, especially in that city!
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, we're both in the same boat- somewhat, and the offer to get drunk together is still open, meet you halfway in Daejeon. .

It sounds like you really do like your job, try to focus on the day to day classes, and not be bitter. The voices of those who complain are a lot louder than those who are contented (see the board as evidence!)
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you have 3 months to find a new job. You won't have to worry about running out of money and leaving Korea like I did. Consider yourself lucky!!!
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Dumped.. Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
The thing about us ESL teachers is that we never worked for the bosses anyway, screw them, we do our best for the students. EFL bosses are just greedy robbers the world over, but that isn't the students' fault. It shouldn't make any difference to you, and I say that with the greatest respect for you.

I don't know about you, and it sounds real smug but not intended as such, but I use negative experiences positively. I use them to motivate me; so in your shoes, I would work my arse off for the next three months, make them ask you to stay so you can refuse, come out on top, immaculate and super confident. Make them regret deciding to can you, show them truly, what you are worth. Three months from now I hope that you are feeling like her majesty the queen in all her regal splendour.

Go Katy, Pighting!!!


I was going to post words to that effect, but I'd give it about 5 days or so in the foetal position first, then I'd be tough as nails, sweetness and light to the kids and a condescending, polite bastar d so as not to cause the director to lose face, yet fully aware of what your'e doing
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mike123_ca



Joined: 12 Mar 2003
Location: wandering between Chonan and Asan

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Katy

Samething happen to me 3 weeks ago. My boss the mindreader went out and hired a new teacher for January. He told me that he "thought" I wanted to move to Seoul. Where he came up with that idea, god only knows. He asked me where I wanted to go, I said I will stay in town and work for another hagwon, needless to say he was not very happy with that idea. Twisted Evil
Anyway, I sat down the next weekend and sent out a lot of job applications. I've received 3 offers and the one I will be taking will be with adults. No more children Surprised BTW I'm over 40, so the job market is not in dire straits. I'm sure very soon you will be telling your friends about the great career move that you just made.
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