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Cohiba
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 Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: OECD Factbook Comparing Korea, USA & Canada |
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I looked at the OECD factbook online and pulled out some other
interesting facts that the Korea Times deemed un-newsworthy:
Household Savings
Korea 4.7%
Canada 1.2%
USA 0.56%
Inflation
Korea -0.19% (hard to believe)
Canada 3.35%
USA 3.23%
Hours Worked
Korea #1 at 2357 h/yr
(but the USA is also over the OECD average)
Science Knowledge Scores - intl scores
Korea 520 (above OECD average)
Canada 535 (above OECD average)
USA 490 (below OECD average)
Math - intl scores
Korea 545(above OECD average)
Canada 525 (above OECD average)
USA 475 (below OECD average)
Spending on Leisure - % of income
Korea 3.75%
Canada 5.5%
USA 6.5%
Obesity (my favourite) % of pop that is fat
Korea 3%
Canada 17%
USA 33%
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Becka
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Could you post a link to the factbook? That'd be nice. |
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Cohiba
Joined: 01 Feb 2005
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Return Jones
Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: I will see you in far-off places
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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According to this recent article, Canada seems to be doing much better:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2007/12/04/pisa-education-study.html
After teaching here for almost seven years, I'm convinced that the high test scores from Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc. are due to the education system being geared toward test preparation so students can "Get to the next level".
I'm convinced that true ability is spread out evenly among different countries and cultures. These kind of reports can be encouraging and discouraging at the same time. Kind of misleading. |
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aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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The other problem with those tests is that most students back home don't care much about it. They don't affect grades (though even if they did they still might not care).
Now, I'm pretty sure Americans aren't so great at math and science as a whole. However, I'm sure them straight up not caring much about those tests help to drag those scores down a little.
I'm surprised the obesity isn't higher. If 1/3 is obese then another 1/3 are at least overweight. When I got off the plane to visit last time I was shocked to see that *I* was the smallest one. And I'm still pretty hefty heh.
And good on Canada I had no idea their scores were that high. Perhaps we should be peeking at our neighbors up there and see what we can learn from their education system =) |
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Becka
Joined: 28 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks! |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:07 am Post subject: |
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GDP per hour worked:
CAN 106.3
KOR 128.2
USA 113.7
Canadians need to pull up their socks. We don't produce as much for our labor. Productivity is the game. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
GDP per hour worked:
CAN 106.3
KOR 128.2
USA 113.7
Canadians need to pull up their socks. We don't produce as much for our labor. Productivity is the game. |
This is strange. I remember reading this last year and it said Koreans were just about the least productive within the OECD. Basically work long, but not hard.
Also, since when have Canadians been known as hard workers? Never. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
GDP per hour worked:
CAN 106.3
KOR 128.2
USA 113.7
Canadians need to pull up their socks. We don't produce as much for our labor. Productivity is the game. |
This is strange. I remember reading this last year and it said Koreans were just about the least productive within the OECD. Basically work long, but not hard.
Also, since when have Canadians been known as hard workers? Never. |
Well, with Newfies and Q'becers, we never really had a fighting chance. 
Still, I think that's something we can be a little bit proud of. *beep* the man! |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
GDP per hour worked:
CAN 106.3
KOR 128.2
USA 113.7
Canadians need to pull up their socks. We don't produce as much for our labor. Productivity is the game. |
This is strange. I remember reading this last year and it said Koreans were just about the least productive within the OECD. Basically work long, but not hard.
Also, since when have Canadians been known as hard workers? Never. |
Technically a worker doesn't have to be a hard worker to produce a lot. A man driving a tractor doesn't work as hard as a man trying to till a field with an ox drawn, but the man driving the tractor produces a lot more. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Looking a bit lazy there, US. Time to pull your socks up I think!  |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| Return Jones wrote: |
According to this recent article, Canada seems to be doing much better:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2007/12/04/pisa-education-study.html
After teaching here for almost seven years, I'm convinced that the high test scores from Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc. are due to the education system being geared toward test preparation so students can "Get to the next level".
I'm convinced that true ability is spread out evenly among different countries and cultures. These kind of reports can be encouraging and discouraging at the same time. Kind of misleading. |
Hmm... I remember there was a big issue back in my school days when my school's Math and Science averaged out in the low 20s (of 100% of course).
Canada seems to have gotten it's gears back, though the Maritime provinces (and Saskatchewan) are still falling way behind the rest. |
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nebraska1
Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Location: Judge, Some people just need killin!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Yeah those stupid fat americans!
Rank Country Number of Laureates (Nobel)
1 United States 270
2 United Kingdom 101
3 Germany 76
4 France 49
5 Sweden 30
6 Switzerland 22
7 Netherlands 15
8 USSR 14
8 Italy 14
10 Denmark 13
11 Japan 12
12 Austria 11
13 Canada 10
14 Spain 6
14 Australia 6
16 Ireland 5
16 Israel 5
16 Poland 5
16 South Africa 5
16 Argentina 5
21 India 4
Source: nobel.org
Funny thing is they seem to produce the most Nobel Laureates. Now should the ever give an award for taking tests you will see Korea top that list. These people can take the hell out tests. But ask one to think outside the answers on the page and you will see a "deer in the headlights"
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crescent
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: |
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American workers are not lazy. They work longer hours than almost any other nation and are one of the most productive.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/09/03/business/news/9_21_249_2_07.txt
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U.N. report shows American workers are world's most productive
By: BRADLEY S. KLAPPER - Associated Press | Sunday, September 2, 2007 7:14 PM PDT ∞
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GENEVA -- American workers stay longer in the office, at the factory or on the farm than their counterparts in Europe and most other rich nations, and they produce more per person over the year.
They also get more done per hour than everyone but the Norwegians, according to a U.N. report released Monday, which said the United States "leads the world in labor productivity."
The average U.S. worker produces $63,885 of wealth per year, more than their counterparts in all other countries, the International Labor Organization said in its report. Ireland comes in second at $55,986, followed by Luxembourg at $55,641, Belgium at $55,235 and France at $54,609.
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