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jiyull

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: "Gyopo position" |
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Hi,
I've been offered "Gyopo" positions...what exactly does that mean?
I know what that term means and I am a "Gyopo" but...what is exactly does the position mean and entail? |
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I'm Seoul Lost
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Location: In the mountains of Gyeonggi
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: |
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It means the owner is a racist who doesn't want to hire anyone from a 'barbarian' race. As opposed to every other hagwon job where the owner wants a white person but no other 'barbarian'. |
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jiyull

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: |
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yeah that was very helpful
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Do you speak Korean?
If so your duties will likely be more than teaching. They might have you do more administrative work or even interact with the parents.
Be sure to ask for more money if that's the case. I'm not gyopo, but I've had a few gyopo friends taken advantage of in this situation. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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'Gyopo position' is slang for 'don't want to deal with visa, housing, and possibly also insurance or severance.'
By hiring you, the boss saves a bundle. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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I'm Seoul Lost wrote: |
It means the owner is a racist who doesn't want to hire anyone from a 'barbarian' race. As opposed to every other hagwon job where the owner wants a white person but no other 'barbarian'. |
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'Gyopo position' is slang for 'don't want to deal with visa, housing, and possibly also insurance or severance.'
By hiring you, the boss saves a bundle. |
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jiyull

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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I see |
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NightSky
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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You will probably get the worst of both worlds--you may have to do the work of a Korean teacher, but won't get paid as much as a whitey, and more than likely you won't be perceived as a native speaker by the kids/parents. |
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jiyull

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I guess being Korean isn't much of a benefit, in terms of this
or not |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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jiyull wrote: |
I guess being Korean isn't much of a benefit, in terms of this
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Don't think like that. Seriously, I know some gyopos who are making a killing here. Way more than any other foreigner could make.
As long as you got the langauage skills and are willing to put in a little research, you can find some pretty good gigs here. |
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Saxiif

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
'Gyopo position' is slang for 'don't want to deal with visa, housing, and possibly also insurance or severance.'
By hiring you, the boss saves a bundle. |
This.
By hiring someone with an F-series visa (in most cases a gyopo or a whitey with a Korean spouse) the boss has a MUCH easier time with the paperwork.
This is a good thing for you, a lot of the places hire at the last minute and don't have time to deal with visa hurdles so use your bargaining power to negotiate for good pay/working conditions. |
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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endo wrote: |
jiyull wrote: |
I guess being Korean isn't much of a benefit, in terms of this
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Don't think like that. Seriously, I know some gyopos who are making a killing here. Way more than any other foreigner could make.
As long as you got the langauage skills and are willing to put in a little research, you can find some pretty good gigs here. |
I agree. I'm a gyopo on an F-4 visa and I think I have an advantage over your average "native" teacher.
Sure, there may be a few hagwons out there who don't want to hire us because of how we look but not everyone is like that. Also, if you do know how to speak, read and write Korean, you have a competitive advantage. You should take advantage of it.
If you're a gyopo, born and raised abroad, I don't think you should ever take less money or benefits than a "native" teacher makes especially if you are bilingual. |
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jiyull

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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dammit
my Korean is average...
my listening skills are pretty good...I can pretty much understand all Korean dialect, except for jejudo dialect
my talking skills aren't as good, because I don't really have enough confidence with it
my reading and writing skills are shambolic...
Hopefully, I will improve my Korean fast, because I plan on going there and staying with family for at least 1-2 months before my job starts. |
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DrunkenMaster

Joined: 04 Feb 2008
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: |
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You want to think about setting up TOEIC, TOEFL, or SSAT classes for middle school kids at night time. My Gyopo buddy has classes of four that meet twice a week, and they each pay 300,000 won per month for those 8 classes. 1.2 million for 8 hours. |
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Kwangjuchicken

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:29 am Post subject: Re: "Gyopo position" |
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jiyull wrote: |
Hi,
I've been offered "Gyopo" positions...what exactly does that mean?
I know what that term means and I am a "Gyopo" but...what is exactly does the position mean and entail? |
Did these job offers just fall out of the sky, or did you apply for them? I am going out on a branch here and I assume you applied to these positions. If that is the case, then there is a good chance that there were job ads. And, if I am still correct, then you (and not anyone here) should know the answer to your question. |
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