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[TML1976]

Historically speaking, the Jews and the Persians have had very good and sometimes intimate relations.

The Persians under Cyrus the Great's rule saved the jews from the babylonians around 500BC. From that time on Jews have been an integral part of Iranian history and culture. For example, Esther, who was a Jewish woman, was also queen of persian during the reign of the Sassani dynasty.


More recently, the Iranian embassy in France during WWII provided European Jews with Iranian passports so they could excape the Nazis in France.

Moreover, during the 1980's when Iran was at war with Iraq, Israel did alot to help Iran gain access to American weaponds. In fact during the 80's Israel was very keen having relations with Iran and did alot to try to get the Americans to talk to Iran. This was called the periphery strategy which Israel followed during the 80's.

The American-Iranian relationship is not as deep or historical as the Jewish-Iranian but they do have some interesting connections. The most important of which comes from the time of the American Revolution and the creation of the American independent States. When America was drafting the constitutions they were debating whether they should base their new government on the philosophical ideal of machiavelli or on the ideas of Xenophon in the Education of Cyrus. The Americans opted to base it on Xenophon.

Currently, all three of these countries also have some very interesting and important common interestest both locally (middle east) and globally (American domination of the energy resources and overall global hegemony).


More specifically, the Israelis and the Iranians have a common enemy in the Arabs. Historically, the Iranians were one of the first countries that fight the Arab expansion of Islam have been doing so in various forms and degrees since. We all know what Israel has gone through in the past century with the Arabs.

In terms of a war against fundemantal Islam (specifically the taliban and the wahabbi ideology) Iran was at odds with the Taliban for over a decade before the Americans got involved in Afghanistan. In fact the Iranians are openly credited with winning the peace in Afghanistan for the US in the early stages of the war on terror.

Now, I know that the most obvious problem with Iran is the Islamic government and their support of terrorism (primarily against American and Israeli interests). However, it is well documented that despite their gov. and foreign policy, the most American friendly population in the ME are the Iranians.

Obvioulsy there are two schools of thought, one which puts forth the need for military intervention to "neutralize" the Iranian threat, and the other that argues the need for diplomacy as the only realistic way to address the problems.

Either way, if the Iranians can be neutralized do you see a new alliance being forged between Iran, Israel and the USA, and if so what do you think the consequences of this would be?

[lastat06513]

The US-Israel-Iran connection WAS very strong, especially during the Munich reprisal raids against the Palestinians that overran the Olympic compound and killed all the Israeli atheletes. It was both American and Iranian intel that helped the Mossad find the ones responsible for that horrible event.
The scissors that cut the strings was the US' refusal to negotiate the end of the US Embassy hostage crisis in Tehran because the Carter administration vermantly wanted the Shah back in power (however, with the popular opinion that he was a tyrrant, there was no hope of bringing him back) and what further humiliated the US was the Delta Force fiasco that killed a number of special ops soldiers that were in Iran to do what? Rescue 50 or so Americans from a mob of tens of thousands of armed young people from the US embassy that lied in the center of the city??.....THAT was madness!!!!!
From what I have read, the US gov't's refusal to negotiate led the Iranian people to believe that the US was their enemy.....

But as the OP stated above, Iran, Israel and the US worked closely to slow Iraq's advance down to a quagmire that led to a negotiated peace in 1989. Little did anyone know that Saddam would then turn his armies on neighboring Kuwait.........however, both Israel and Iran decided to stay out of it as not to rile up Sunni sympathy for Iraq if Jewish Israel and Shiite Iran got involved.

Actually, the US is involved in a proxy war with Iran right now as US forces battle shiite militias that are armed and trained in Iran.
But it is not just there.....
The government and the media are focusing on the Pakistani-Afghan border region as one of the most dangerous areas in the War on Terror. But what few people know is that alot of arms and foreign fighters find their way through the western Afghan border area with Iran.