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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: What's the deal with knives? |
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At last Monday morning staff meeting (boy's public middle school), the school disciplinarian got up and much to the horror and gasps of amazement from the K-teachers, produced a small/medium-sized Swiss Army knife that had been confiscated from one of the students. I don't think the student had threatened anyone with it... it was just found in his possession (my reaction was a yawn).
I don't understand the Ks reaction of shock to a pocket knife when even elementary school students all carry an exacto knife/box cutter in their pencil case.
Does anyone know why the K-teachers were so shocked? |
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nebraska1

Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: Judge, Some people just need killin!
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Have no idea since most Korean students down to the elementary school age carry around box cutters and exacto knives. Mostly used to destroy desks.
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Did you ask them what the big deal was? I'd be interested in what their reasons are too and can't even begin to imagine what they are, considering the knives they already carry around. |
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aalais

Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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I was really surprised to see a bunch of fourth graders whip out matte knives the other day. Maybe not having gone to schools with metal detectors, the potential for violence doesn't occur to Korean teachers. But because a Swiss army knife seems vaguely switchblade-y if you've never handled one, they decided to crack down? I don't know, it still seems kind of weird. |
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saw6436
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon, ROK
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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According to Korean law it is illegal to carry a knife. The exacto knives the kids carry do not qualify as a "knife". |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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saw6436 wrote: |
According to Korean law it is illegal to carry a knife. The exacto knives the kids carry do not qualify as a "knife". |
What does Korean law consider a knife? |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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That ain't no knife ! :
Now THAT's a Knife:
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Chris_Dixon
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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i confiscated a 40 cm home made baton the other day, the kid was walking around smacking it against his open palm in a threatening manner. i couldn't believe it. |
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nicholas_chiasson

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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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40cm! Is he sticking that thing places it don't belong? |
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bassexpander
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: |
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I asked my wife about this one. She said about what you might expect... Koreans don't consider the box cutters to be a knife, and any kid who carried around a pocketknife in school should know better. She considered it a very serious thing too. I explained that I didn't understand the difference, and she said it has to do with usage. The paper (box) cutter has a school use. The knife doesn't. The kid brought the knife to school for no good reason, and he knew it.
Different culture, I guess. |
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I'm Seoul Lost
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Location: In the mountains of Gyeonggi
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Since, of course, a pocket knife could *never* be used to cut paper (a stupid thing to do, but some of these kids are none too bright), and a box cutter could *never* be used to kill somebody. |
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panthermodern

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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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According to Korean law it is illegal to carry a knife. The exacto knives the kids carry do not qualify as a "knife". |
You can buy swiss army knives and leatherman tools in most stationary stores, so, I doubt they are illegal. |
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cruisemonkey

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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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I guess it just boils down to K-logic... after all, one could never use a sharp, extendable blade for other than it's intended (sharpening a pencil) purpose. One would need a 'real' knife to slash teacha's throat.  |
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EzeWong

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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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It kind of makes sense,
Someone could of course use a boxcutter to stab someone... but it has an intended use, where as the pocket knife, why the hell would you bring that? Unless you wanted to hurt someone with it.
So an extreme example would be like... Guns in the USA. Guns have their use in gun ranges and hunting fields but to bring it to school has no purpose other than to hurt other people.... thats pretty much what I gather from that kind of logic. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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EzeWong wrote: |
It kind of makes sense,... |
It makes no sense!
The threat is not inherent in the inanimate object. The 'threat' is only in people's perception of the potential use of the object. There a million reasons to carry a pocket knife... none of which have to do with hurting anyone. |
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