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newteacher

Joined: 31 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: "It's Delicious!" |
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| Anyone else noticed Koreans fascination with the word 'delicious'. I have a few students who love to say it in just about any context. If someone in class makes a funny comment, there's always one student who says, "That was delicious." When I go to certain restaurants as I'm paying my bills the cashier will always say with a smile "Delicious", as though it's the only English word he knows. And I was out with a friend of mine this weekend and for her nothing is ever good, or very good, it's either delicious, or not delicious. There are no other qualifications for food. And if I tried to say that something was good, but not delicious, I got yelled at and told that it had to be delicious. |
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mole

Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Act III
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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It's your duty as a language instructor in their country to make them understand how badly they bastardize English.
If you can be condescending, all the better.
They still won't get it. |
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Stormy

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Location: Here & there
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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During class the other day I absentmindedly said "good stuff" when a student gave me the correct answer. I heard the co-teacher muttering "good stuff" to himself over & over & now it has become the favourite phrase at my school. Lunch is good stuff, the weather is good stuff.
But yes, they do also favour "delicious". |
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JustJohn

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Location: Your computer screen
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty sure this is the reason:
A long time ago someone translated 맛있다 as "delicious," so whenever a Korean wants to say something tastes good they say "delicious." They have no idea what degree of tastiness they are implying, they just think it means "tastes good." |
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idonojacs
Joined: 07 Jun 2007
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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From what I can figure out, apparently they are using "delicious" as a direct translation for a Korean word that would be more accurately translated as "tasty."
Most often they will say "very delicious."
I don't think any native speakers say very delicious, just delicious.
But we do say "very tasty."
At least the textbooks here get it right, saying simply "delicious."
Do you think the heavy use of "delicious" could in some way be related to the use of English textbooks to propagandize the superlative qualities of Korean food?
That was OK when Koreans were teaching Englishy, but I must say it is slightly annoying as an American to be used to perpetrate the myth of Korean superiority.
But whatever.
Did you know "pizza" in Korean is "pizza?"
It won't last forever. |
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Chris_Dixon
Joined: 09 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| idonojacs wrote: |
I don't think any native speakers say very delicious, just delicious.
But we do say "very tasty."
At least the textbooks here get it right, saying simply "delicious."
But whatever.. |
i think you have forgotten that not everyone speaks the same english. Very tasty is a very American/Canadian thing, and it sounds it....we say very delicious or delicious depending on how good it is where i am from...
You need to be careful when you say things are wrong... |
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newteacher

Joined: 31 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Chris_Dixon wrote: |
| idonojacs wrote: |
I don't think any native speakers say very delicious, just delicious.
But we do say "very tasty."
At least the textbooks here get it right, saying simply "delicious."
But whatever.. |
i think you have forgotten that not everyone speaks the same english. Very tasty is a very American/Canadian thing, and it sounds it....we say very delicious or delicious depending on how good it is where i am from...
You need to be careful when you say things are wrong... |
I don't really say either very tasty or delicious that often. I'm more likely to say something is great than delicious. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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It's mildly annoying due to repetition, but it's hardly worth complaining about-try describing or defining an alternate word.
When I had steak dinner with my coteacher in December, I suggested a dry red wine. If anybody can give an accurate and definiton of "dry" as it pertains to red wine, I'd like to hear it. |
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nobbyken

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Location: Yongin ^^
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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When I first arrived for a 4-week vacation, friends of my (now) wife would ask me how I liked Korea.
I would say, "It's good" or "I like it."
They would be a bit bemused that I never said brilliant or awesome or a similar superlative.
If the streets never smelt strange, and I wasn't constantly uncomfortable with the heat and hot pepper food, then I probably would have said something else.
'It's good' or 'I like it' are pretty suitable answers I thought. |
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curlygirl

Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Location: Pundang, Seohyeon dong
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| crusher_of_heads wrote: |
When I had steak dinner with my coteacher in December, I suggested a dry red wine. If anybody can give an accurate and definiton of "dry" as it pertains to red wine, I'd like to hear it. |
Description: It makes your mouth go like this (make puckering motion), like eating a lemon.
OP I've talked to Koreans about similar overused words such as "really!" and "wow!". People who know more words and expressions will use them. Koreans with a more limited vocabulary can only use the words they know, so in this case 'delicious' is the most familiar word and they simply haven't learned any other ways to explain that the food that tastes good. |
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Privateer
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Koreans cannot get through the day without using the words '맛있다' and '재미있다'. Hence the massive overuse of 'delicious', and also 'interesting', 'fun', and 'funny'. They're only trying to say the same things they say in Korean.
| crusher_of_heads wrote: |
It's mildly annoying due to repetition, but it's hardly worth complaining about-try describing or defining an alternate word.
When I had steak dinner with my coteacher in December, I suggested a dry red wine. If anybody can give an accurate and definiton of "dry" as it pertains to red wine, I'd like to hear it. |
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dry /draɪ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[drahy] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, dri�er, dri�est, verb, dried, dry�ing, noun, plural drys, dries.
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15. (of wines) not sweet. |
It means what it damn well means. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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I use interesting as a euphemism all the time.
My coteacher is great, although unfortunately married-last December she brought in some fish [obvioulsy didn't get the name] with a pungent odor. They made the mistake of asking me what I thought about it at 915am.
"Interesting"-they all laughed at it. |
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darkcity

Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: SF, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| JustJohn wrote: |
Pretty sure this is the reason:
A long time ago someone translated 맛있다 as "delicious," so whenever a Korean wants to say something tastes good they say "delicious." They have no idea what degree of tastiness they are implying, they just think it means "tastes good." |
to make it worse, i think the literal translation of "맛있다" is just "this has taste". |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: "It's Delicious!" |
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| newteacher wrote: |
| Anyone else noticed Koreans fascination with the word 'delicious'. |
I have banned the word from my class. I give them as many alternatives to the word as I can, and encourage them to use them. If they use the word delicious, I pretend I didn't hear them. |
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ardis
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know...in Spanish, everyone always used the word "sabrosa" to describe how good food was, so...yeah. We weren't taught the equivalents of "scrumptious", "delectable" and the like, so we just always used "la comida esta muy sabrosa."
But yeah, I've tried to teach my kids different words for "delicious." |
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