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Consequences of a midnight run?

 
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Consequences of a midnight run? Reply with quote

People always talk on here about them casually, but I did a google search and another site said that immigration will flag you for five years?

Obviously, I'm seriously considering one, one of the main reasons being that I foolishly signed a contract where they only need to give me 45 days to terminate me, while I need to give 90.

I'm not overly enamored with Korea, so it will hopefully be a cold day in hell when I worry about getting my F-5, but I do have a Korean fiancee and I'm thinking of marrying her and getting an F-2 to save up before we go back to America. Could I in anyway jeopardize this by running? Also, my visa doesn't expire until September, and I may want to enter to the country at least as a tourist before then will this be possible? Thanks for informed opinions.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

first of all - you can always get yourself fired which makes everything else moot - immi will cancel your visa then and you are free and clear to do whatever.

second - even if you do a midnight run and are blacklisted for a work visa (E2, E1, etc) - it won't interfere with you re-entering as a tourist - you haven't been banned from K - just will have difficulties applying for a work visa is all.

getting fired here is definitely better than quitting - it's just not always possible sometimes - try to understand what your options are first - and you ALWAYS have options - ok?
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Appreciate the kind words. I don't know I could go about getting fired, maybe show up late or something repeatedly, honestly I'd rather not do that, I guess its more ethical than running out, but its not my style.

That's good to know on the tourist visa, so I can at least visit my fiancee. I may just see if I can convince her to wait for a US visa to come through for her, but I'd still like to know what consequences there would be if any on an application for an F-2?

My situation with my school is that I've been sick for several months now, but have been working through it, they refuse to give me any time off. Now because of a teacher shortage, I am being given forced overtime, now they are paying me for it, (they've been decent about pay) but I don't want it as I barely have enough energy to perform my present duties. They claim they have teachers coming through the pipeline and this situation will resolve itself soon, but I've been hearing this for a couple of months now. Anyway thanks for anymore advice people can give.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just turn in your notice and be kind and apologetic about it. They might loosen up when you show them you're serious about leaving.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree w/ bass...really only thing you can do is give notice. It's your fault you signed for three months. You should have insisted on the same amount of time for both parties.
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Cerriowen



Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Location: Pocheon

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to get fired and it's absolutely aweful there... just stop going to work. Or show up randomly. Act like you don't know why they are upset, you don't *want* to get fired obviously, that would be terrible.

If it's just not good, then put in 30 days notice.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm...here's a thought.

Be proactive and help them find teachers.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
Hmm...here's a thought.

Be proactive and help them find teachers.


Nope, only if they pay a fee for the effort expanded in recruiting.
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Bass and Spliff here. I wouldn't want you to have difficulties applying for a F-2 visa.
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Countrygirl



Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Location: in the classroom

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, if you're sick, get a doctor's note and take the time to get better. Korean bosses can be pushy but you have to stand up for yourself in regards to your health regardless of management's inability to deal with a teacher taking sick days. This, in itself, might get you fired (depends on your contract).

Another option would be to tell the boss your mother or some close family member is 'sick' and you have to get back home as quickly as possible. This might make it possible for you to leave sooner and on good terms with management. You might want to have your Korean fiance give the boss a call and explain in Korean to help your case. I've never had to do this, so I don't know if this could backfire or not.

Good luck
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: , Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote :


Hmm...here's a thought.

Be proactive and help them find teachers.



seconded one of my "fabulous" four in my opinion shouldnt be in a classroom!
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I have epstein-barr (commonly known as mono) the doctor told me to take it easy and try not to exercise or do any heavy lifting, but he said teaching was okay. I'm definitely never 100%, but it's not serious enough to say that I can't teach at all, I just don't want these morning classes.

I think I will tell them that either I just go back to a regular schedule or I quit. The thing that makes me hesistant is that I did sign that contract and maybe they will be flexible and maybe they won't. If they force me to work the 90 days, then basically I'll be leaving only 60 days before my contract would be up, and will probably forfeit severance and airfare.

I admit it was my fault for signing the contract, I recommend that people get both dates to be equal. Anyway, thanks for the ideas.
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darkcity



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: SF, CA

PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

come in with a crazed look one morning and say you're going to pull a seung-hui cho if they don't cut you some slack.

they'll probably believe you if your acting is good enough. one korean family was hesitant to let me stay with them because they thought i would have a gun with me (they had never met an american before).
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DHC



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To answer your specific question , yes , running can prevent your approval for an F-2 visa. The F-2 is not guaranteed to those married to Korean nationals. It is at the discretion of Immigration. I have an F-5 and most immigration officials take a dim view of people who do runners.
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