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ESL Girl
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: School Field Trips Mandatory?f |
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So I was told today that my principal expects me to go on the school field trip - which is THREE nights to the Seoul area. This is with all of the students. The main part of the excursion is an amusement park.
I really really can't go on this. I will fricken die. First of all, I would have NOT ONE decent conversation for 4 days. Whenever I go to dinner with the other teachers, I just end up in the corner and no one talks to me. Most ofg the time I can't get a straight sentence out of my co-teachers. Then to go to an amusement park puts me over the edge- I mean, I even get sick on the ferris wheel! On top of that - where will I sleep? With a room full of students - oh h@ll no!
Please, someone tell me that there is something not in my contract to make me do this. PLEASE!!! |
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Whistleblower

Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Overtime is voluntary, end of story. You can politely decline the request. |
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Bouvguy

Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like fun to me! Tell them I'll go in your place. My school is going camping and I wasn't invited! Guess I'll just have to sit home for 3 days. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Where are the other teachers going to be sleeping? Presumably not in a room full of kids. Do you ever get drunk with your coworkers? Perhaps that's what you're missing and the reason you just can't gel. This might be the perfect occasion to start mixing it up and having more fun with them.
Last Friday my school had a trip to an amusement park. First all the teachers enjoyed a nice lunch together, had a few beers, and then I went off with another teacher to find a quiet restaurant where we spend the whole afternoon drinking and didn't go on a single ride. Slept it off on the bus ride home and reckoned it another fabulous day of teaching EFL in Korea. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: Re: School Field Trips Mandatory?f |
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ESL Girl wrote: |
So I was told today that my principal expects me to go on the school field trip - which is THREE nights to the Seoul area. This is with all of the students. The main part of the excursion is an amusement park.
I really really can't go on this. I will fricken die. First of all, I would have NOT ONE decent conversation for 4 days. Whenever I go to dinner with the other teachers, I just end up in the corner and no one talks to me. Most ofg the time I can't get a straight sentence out of my co-teachers. Then to go to an amusement park puts me over the edge- I mean, I even get sick on the ferris wheel! On top of that - where will I sleep? With a room full of students - oh h@ll no!
Please, someone tell me that there is something not in my contract to make me do this. PLEASE!!! |
Do you have to go? NO
Should you go? Probably. They won't MAKE the foreigner go but the principal can be a pain in the azz if you don't "follow his wishes".
Will you have to sleep with kids - unlikely. Most likely you will be placed in a room full of similar gender teachers. Possibly you MAY be put in a room by yourself (happened to me on a field trip at our public school because the other male teachers had to play go-stop with the principal all night).
Will you have fun - possibly. Make the best of it. They're not as bad as they sound. |
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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: Re: School Field Trips Mandatory?f |
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ttompatz wrote: |
Will you have to sleep with kids - unlikely. Most likely you will be placed in a room full of similar gender teachers. |
Because there's all kinds of gray area in the gender of teachers. |
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R. S. Refugee

Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Location: Shangra La, ROK
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
Do you ever get drunk with your coworkers? Perhaps that's what you're missing and the reason you just can't gel. This might be the perfect occasion to start mixing it up and having more fun with them.
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Absolutely. You can be "one of the gang."
And if you're from one of those weenie cultures where people don't like to share spit with all their colleagues, then just get over it, girl. All these folks will want to show you how much you're loved and accepted by them that they will ALL come over to you with their own personal soju glass with their own personal spit on it and insist that you drink a shot or two out of it too. And don't even think of declining for health or communicable disease reasons. We're talking international incident, recall our ambassodor for "consultations" sort of stuff. [Mind you, if you drink enough soju in advance of the spit-sharing, you probably won't dwell on the public health aspects of it right then, but perhaps will for a year or so afterwards assuming you stay healthy that long. ]
But, do have fun whatever you decide.
[In spite of all this spit-sharning bonding, you can expect them to show all the independence of order-following Nazis if you ever have a real problem. Nothing personal. It's just a cultural thing.]
Just to give a little perspective on the acidity of my comments, I am experiencing daily f*ckovers at the moment from my Koreans who've lied to me (promising decent housing on the next contract and then reneging) and who're now demanding that I sign documents acknowledging financial housing obligations for the next 12 months when they haven't even given me the new employment contract for the next 12 months to look at yet. And they seem nonplused that I'm unwilling to oblige them in putting the cart before the horse. Oy vey.
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: The Y.C.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:39 am Post subject: |
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I made the trip from Busan to Seoul before. Didnt have to stay in the motel, but it was fun times. Got drunk with the teachers, things became alot more friendly at work.
Guess you can get out of it, but the other teachers are going to resent you for it and let you sit in the corner alone next time you have to eat together again. |
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yeremy
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: Anywhere's there's a good bookstore.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: The Myth You Have to be a Social Butterfly in Korea |
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It's a myth. If you don't want to go, you don't have to go. Your principal isn't going to do anything to you, if you don't go. However, your principal will do something if you don't live up to what they want in the classroom. Put your job first and worry about being a social butterfly later, if you want. Your contract probably states what your working hours are. After those hours you are largely free of them if you wish. Korean principals are more concerned that your students like you and that you work hard preparing and teaching in the classroom. |
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:34 am Post subject: Re: The Myth You Have to be a Social Butterfly in Korea |
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OK, this is Korea. Be sick. Get very sick the day before... like, food poisoning. Bad squid. Bad chicken. Whatever. Say you wish you could go, but can't. You'll need a few days of recovery. They'll probably know your bullshi****ing them but it's kind of how it works here. They'll just bs a "get well soon" and be off without thinking much about it. That's your escape plan! Do it! |
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majolica
Joined: 03 Apr 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: |
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coming to the end of my first public school contract, i'm looking back and realizing that i wish i had done more with my coworkers.... i avoided every possible extracurricular activity i could, for all the reasons you mentioned. i know it sounds really annoying, and it probably will be at first but it could turn out to be a great time! you may find that your coworkers need a longer period of time to feel comfortable enough to talk to you... plus you can practise your korean. plus, you'll have mega brownie points for use in other situations. |
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yeremy
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: Anywhere's there's a good bookstore.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: Be Yourself |
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Korea's public school system doesn't have a brownie point system for NET's. |
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majolica
Joined: 03 Apr 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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what i ment, genius, is that when you want to negotiate extra time off (not coming in for graduation week, getting exam days off) or when you need the school to change something for your benefit, you're going to have an easier time of it if they see you as having put in some extra effort throughout the year, "assisting" with fieldtrips, and other stuff like that.
in this system, doing what you can to kiss the principal's ass can be beneficial. |
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mnhnhyouh

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Location: The Middle Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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I went on the school trip a couple of weeks ago. One big house for the teachers, females on the second floor, males on the first. My Korean still sucks and none of the male teachers spoke much English. There were 3 female English teachers there and their English is pretty good.
I did spend a lot of time reading, listening to music, studying Korean and sleeping. But we also went on a couple of excursions and I had a great time.
I suggest you go. You might just enjoy yourself.
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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I, as much as the next guy, like to get along with my fellow teachers, immerse myself in culture, and spend time with my students. If it was a day trip, leaving at 2am, and returning at 2 the next morning, I would say, go, have fun.
However........
I do not ever enjoy sharing a spitty shot glass with two or twenty other people.
I do not ever enjoy watching the sam gyup sal closely to see which one piece has not been handled by three other peoples spitty chopsticks.
I do not ever enjoy another man trying to pull up my t-shirt to show other people the tattoos on my back (yes, more than once).
I do not ever enjoy having another man run his fingers through my body hair because it's a novelty.
I do not ever enjoy sharing a blazing hot, zip-lock sealed room meant for four with 10 soju stinking men for a night, especially when there always seems to be one or two awake smoking.
No thank you. |
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