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R.E.M. vs. U2 Who was the best rock band of the '80s?
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Who was the best rock band of the '80s?
R.E.M.
20%
 20%  [ 13 ]
U2
65%
 65%  [ 42 ]
I don't belong here.
14%
 14%  [ 9 ]
Total Votes : 64

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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:18 am    Post subject: R.E.M. vs. U2 Who was the best rock band of the '80s? Reply with quote

from Slate.com:
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R.E.M. vs. U2
Who was the best rock band of the '80s?
By Dan Kois

You can tell a lot about a band by how they tell their own story. This fall, R.E.M. released And I Feel Fine, a collection of songs from their early years, 1982 to 1987. The deluxe two-disc edition comes with liner notes in which R.E.M.'s four founding members relate stories of the band's early years. As a one-time devoted fan, I devoured these 11 short pages of storytelling�a tiny window into the songs I'd spent so many hours rapturously listening to, obsessing over, and decoding.

In weighty contrast to this slim text is the just-released U2 by U2, a $40 coffee-table book that exhaustively recounts�in 352 pages of interviews�the birth, struggles, and modern-day megasuccess of U2. Now that U2 has become America's spokesband for human dignity, it's difficult to remember that R.E.M., the quiet Georgians with the elliptical lyrics, once competed with U2 for the title of world's best rock band. With U2 triumphant and R.E.M. fading into near-obscurity, And I Feel Fine reminds listeners that R.E.M., not U2, made the most memorable music of the 1980s.

Throughout that decade and the early 1990s, a fierce rivalry existed between R.E.M. and U2�not in real life, mind you, but in my head. Among certain floppy-haired music nerds in that era, you were either an R.E.M. person or a U2 person, and this R.E.M. person has spent the last five years in agony, watching my one-time heroes release several drab albums, while U2 famously announced they meant to matter again�and succeeded.


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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poison.
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Mashimaro



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

U2 over REM definitely.. I like both bands but have to go with U2
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Junior



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked...

INXS
Aerosmith
Faith no more
Janes addiction
Pearl jam
-and Bruce Springsteen.

Don't know how you can put REM on the same level as U2 though. Different league entirely.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard choice for me, as I have always loved "Man on the Moon"; but I went with U-2 for "I still haven't found what I'm looking for" and a couple of others.

By the way, how could The Police, The Pretenders, and Van Halen find themselves excluded from such a question?
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Springsteen, without question.
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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
By the way, how could The Police, The Pretenders, and Van Halen find themselves excluded from such a question?


Indeed. Nice choices. It just hit me that it's a long time since I heard The Pretenders played... yet they were such a bloody great band.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People smirk when you mention the 80s-- can you really compare Toni Basil to The Who?-- but it was more than cheese, and there's some fantastic music there.

REM was a good band, but sometimes I thought their fans had a bit of reverse snobbery; because they were underdogs ignored by radio stations, thus they were great. U2 is simply on a different plane.

The 80s? In no order, U2, Springsteen, Madonna, AC-DC, Van Halen, Pretenders, Men at Work, Police, Duran Duran, Thomas Dolby, English Beat, Rush, Eurythmics, Paul Simon, and a host of others on my old VHS tapes of Much-Music.

Ken:>
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
I liked...

INXS
Aerosmith
Faith no more
Janes addiction
Pearl jam
-and Bruce Springsteen.



And you left out
Metallica
Iron Maiden
Guns n Roses
The Cult

I always think of Aerosmith as a seventies band...I think that's when they did their best stuff.
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Satori



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two great bands. I agree that U2 have been at times pompous twats in the way they talk about and promote themselves. But I judge a band on the albumns they put out, not thier moral character ( apparantly such greats as Bob Dylan and Lou Reed are notorious a-holes in person ). So I have to go with U2. "The Joshua Tree" is just too big, to iconic, too classic, too original, too "large-sounding", too consistant, too epic, too euphoric, too uplifting, too memorable to be denied.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:

The 80s? In no order, U2, Springsteen, Madonna, AC-DC, Van Halen, Pretenders, Men at Work, Police, Duran Duran, Thomas Dolby, English Beat, Rush, Eurythmics, Paul Simon, and a host of others on my old VHS tapes of Much-Music.

Ken:>


You've missed out Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel and the Smiths.

AC-DC and Rush: best stuff done in the 70s.

But we're talking rock bands here. What about Midnight Oil?
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The Unforgettable Fire" and "The Joshua Tree" (the albums that made U2) weren't about U2 as much as they were about Daniel Lanois and Brian Eno. Lanois was the man behind their biggest albums and when he wasn't there, they released some ho-hum stuff indeed. If there needs to be more illustration of this, U2 were totally in a void of nowhere before Eno and Lanois propped them up again and they released "All You Can't Leave Behind", an album that put them back into vitality.

REM were pretty much self-made in every way. They were more 'honest' than U2 that way, even after they got the Big Deal and made Monster, their most 'forced' album to date, they remained apart from any major assistance on the level that Lanois gave to U2. U2 needed help, REM didn't.

I love both bands, but if I had to choose 1 CD to play infinitely in my grave, it would be Life's Rich Pageant.
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Satori



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many Aerosmith tracks from the 70s can you even name?

The 80s albumns Permanant Vacation and Pump were chock full of classic hits...

Heart's Done Time
Magic Touch
Rag Doll
Simoriah
Dude (Looks Like A Lady)
St. John
Hangman Jury
Girl Keeps Coming Apart
Angel
Permanent Vacation

Young Lust
F. I. N. E. (Fucked Up, Insecure, Neurotic And Emotional)
Going Down / Love In An Elevator
Monkey On My Back
Water Song / Janie's Got A Gun
Dulcimer Stomp / Other Side, The
My Girl
Don't Get Mad, Get Even
Hoodoo / Voodoo Medicine Man
What It Takes

I'm Down
Movie, The
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seoulkitchen



Joined: 28 Dec 2004
Location: Hub of Asia, my ass!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject: Happy Furry Monsters Reply with quote

The main problem I have with REM is that after 'Happy Shiny People' whatsisface denied ever having done it! Even after they performed it on Sesame Street ta boot! That cracks me up that Michael decided that the song doesn't exist.
Hey, I gotta say tho, Kate did a bang-up job on the vocals for that one.


Ahhhh, U2, such happy shiny memories.
5 bucks to see them in Phoenix for the filming of Rattle and Hum. Everytime I watch that video...
And I've found myself in it (I snuck up front). Brief but I recognize me! Yay! I'm in a movie from the eighties!




How 'bout them Stray Cats...
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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SWANS.Early Sonic Youth.The Fall.Einsturzende Neubauten.

I saw U2 in 94.They weren't as intellectually interesting but they were good to see.
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