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Shesmou
Joined: 13 Apr 2008
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 Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: Reviewing Recruiting Agencies ? |
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Hello All,
I am posting this inquiry because I am getting ready to move to South Korea soon (currently gathering all of my paperwork) and I have a few agencies that I juggling - but Im still not sure which one is the best or which ones I can trust.
It is hard finding reviews on google for some of them, so my question is, how can you determine who to trust? Can I trust the jobs listed in the "JOB" section of this forum? If I search for reviews on Google or some other search engine and dont find any bad reviews, is this a good to strong sign that I should go with them?
Im just trying to make the right decision before I sign up for something. Thank you for your help! |
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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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The agents dont matter, much. Their job is
Agent : Here is a warm body, able to get E2 visa.
School : Show me a photo
Agent : Here it is.
School : Good, we will take them.
However, some do go the extra bit. I went with Korvia, and they sent an agent with me to the interviews, supplied translated CVs to the schools, and then kicked in the airfare to Japan, though the school refunded them.
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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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The most important things are the contract and the school. The recruiter will not, generally, pay any attention to this. They are paid not on your satisfaction, but when you start work.
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Shesmou
Joined: 13 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe I should understand the process better. Recruiting agencies must receive some type of commission for their service, but really the agency has nothing to do with my contract or my experience over there? Should I therefore only be researching the schools themselves?
Maybe a better question to ask is -
How do teachers get screwed when entering into contracts with schools? |
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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Shesmou wrote: |
Maybe I should understand the process better. Recruiting agencies must receive some type of commission for their service, but really the agency has nothing to do with my contract or my experience over there? Should I therefore only be researching the schools themselves?
Maybe a better question to ask is -
How do teachers get screwed when entering into contracts with schools? |
The recruiters are only for introductions.
Teachers get screwed because they sign bad contracts, or work for bad directors. I can only talk at these things second hand because I have been lucky/careful.
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TusiaYYZ
Joined: 08 Jan 2007
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Hi Shesmou,
I'm pretty much in the same boat at the moment - gathering the documents and sorting through the offers (mainly from recruiters). I'm looking to be in South Korea at the end of May (but of course this depends on how fast the paperwork goes once I select a school)...When are you planning to head out?
Send me an email: [email protected], and we can talk more!  |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Shesmou wrote: |
Maybe I should understand the process better. Recruiting agencies must receive some type of commission for their service, but really the agency has nothing to do with my contract or my experience over there? Should I therefore only be researching the schools themselves?
Maybe a better question to ask is -
How do teachers get screwed when entering into contracts with schools? |
Please let me repeat an old post of mine.
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Really, when it comes to a recruiter, who cares?
A recruiter is nothing more than an introduction to an employer.
REPEAT: A recruiter is nothing more than an introduction to an employer.
Hello Mr. English speaker this is Mr Hakwon owner.
Mr. hakwon owner, this is Mr. English speaker.
Mr. English speaker, here is the contract. Please read and sign.
School, here is the signed contract. Pay me.
Good bye.
-You are not paying them anything (or you shouldn't be).
-THEY DO NOT WORK FOR YOU! - They work for the school.
-They owe you nothing once you get here.
-They are not your friend.
-They are not your baby sitter.
-They cannot help you if things go to *beep* after you get here.
Beyond that it is YOUR responsibility to check the school out.
Do NOT trust ANY recruiter. They are like used car salesmen. They will lie and sell their soul to get the signature on the contract.
Do your own DUE DILLIGENCE in regards to the school or get burned.
Use the recruiters for what they are. Use more than one and keep going until you get what you want. There is no rush and there is certainly no shortage of jobs.
When it comes to the school - again - repeat - Do your own DUE DILLIGENCE.
1st - READ the contract over very carefully. If that doesn't scare you away then...
The best you can do is minimize the risk by talking to MORE THAN ONE of the foreign staff and ask POINTED AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS (*when the boss is NOT listening over their shoulder). Don't accept non-specific answers and broad generalizations.
No foreign staff references to talk (directly and via e-mail) to = walk away now.
Accept NO EXCUSES for any reason.
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