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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: Stephen Hawking on resistance to space exploration |
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By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer
Mon Apr 21, 6:23 PM ET
WASHINGTON - Famed astrophysicist Stephen Hawking has been thinking a lot about the cosmic question, "Are we alone?" The answer is probably not, he says.
If there is life elsewhere in the universe, Hawking asks why haven't we stumbled onto some alien broadcasts in space, maybe something like "alien quiz shows?"
Hawking's comments were part of a lecture at George Washington University on Monday in honor of NASA's 50th anniversary. He theorized that there are possible answers to whether there is extraterrestrial life.
One option is that there likely isn't life elsewhere. Or maybe there is intelligent life elsewhere, but when it gets smart enough to send signals into space, it also is smart enough to make destructive nuclear weapons.
Hawking said he prefers the third option:
"Primitive life is very common and intelligent life is fairly rare," he then quickly added: "Some would say it has yet to occur on earth."
So should you worry about aliens? Alien abduction claims come from "weirdos" and are unlikely. However, because alien life might not have DNA like us, Hawking warned: "Watch out if you would meet an alien. You could be infected with a disease with which you have no resistance."
The 66-year-old British cosmologist, who suffers from ALS and must speak through a mechanical device, believes "if the human race is to continue for another million years, we will have to boldly go where no one has gone before."
Hawking compared people who don't want to spend money on human space exploration to those who opposed the journey of Christopher Columbus in 1492.
"The discovery of the New World made a profound difference to the old. Just think we wouldn't have had a Big Mac or KFC."
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yawarakaijin
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:50 am Post subject: |
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I think that of all the era's of human existence we live in what is probably the most fascinating. I would kill however, to be alive when and if we ever do make first contact with an alien species.
If that seems a little far fetched, I would love to be one of the dudes selected to colonize a new planet. That would be so cool. Imagine going on an extended camping trip to the most remote region on earth and times that by about ten million. Would be awesome! |
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KirbyMagnus
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:25 am Post subject: |
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yawarakaijin wrote: |
I think that of all the era's of human existence we live in what is probably the most fascinating. I would kill however, to be alive when and if we ever do make first contact with an alien species.
If that seems a little far fetched, I would love to be one of the dudes selected to colonize a new planet. That would be so cool. Imagine going on an extended camping trip to the most remote region on earth and times that by about ten million. Would be awesome! |
As long as your not the guy wearing the red shirt!
Seriously though there needs to be something for the human race to rally around. Why can't we settle all of our bullsh*t nationalistic and religious differences and get the hell off this rock?
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: |
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KirbyMagnus wrote: |
yawarakaijin wrote: |
I think that of all the era's of human existence we live in what is probably the most fascinating. I would kill however, to be alive when and if we ever do make first contact with an alien species.
If that seems a little far fetched, I would love to be one of the dudes selected to colonize a new planet. That would be so cool. Imagine going on an extended camping trip to the most remote region on earth and times that by about ten million. Would be awesome! |
As long as your not the guy wearing the red shirt!
Seriously though there needs to be something for the human race to rally around. Why can't we settle all of our bullsh*t nationalistic and religious differences and get the hell of this rock? |
Why cross the Atlantic Ocean everyone said... Luckily they did (especially Columbus of course). Most people are small, not bad people, just small and will be for the next few millenia at least. I just hope the few who can see outside their socially constructed boxes will get some of us off this rock and greatly increase the chances of humanity surviving for a while.
But you are absolutely right, no matter what we equip our settlers with, it better not be red shirts or we are screwed! |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Good subject for a thread. Luckily we're right on the verge of being able to discover Earth-sized planets in other solar systems (just discovered one only five times Earth's mass last week), and with COROT already in orbit and Kepler going up this year (both space telescopes focused on finding other planets) we'll probably be able to find a good number by 2012 or so.
The difference this will make will be phenomenal, because up to now no matter how big space is, we still haven't been able to find a place where we could possibly just land, and start exploring. For humans, a single planet that we could just go to and start doing things is way more exciting than the discovery of a thousand gas giants. |
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it's full of stars

Joined: 26 Dec 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: |
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I like this thread and it has a common theme with one I read earlier that linked to this site:
http://www.ted.com/
I can't find the thread from earlier but it got me onto the TED site and I am very grateful to whoever posted the link. I spent a good part of this afternoon working. This is the Stephen Hawking's presentation.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/242
This one has Burt Rutan talking about the almost complete lack of progress made since the moon walks and the role of entrepeneurship in revitalising space exploration/travel/colonisation.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/4
I sincerely hope that something is done and quickly, so that at least my children or grandchildren will have the opportunity to get off this rock.
Rutan makes the argument that rich companies working for profit can make more progress in 10-15 years than NASA has in the last 50, at a tenth of the cost. Now I don't know about that as I've never had a business head but I think it would be difficult to do less. I think that somewhere along the line NASA has been hamstrung, restricted in their endeavours, otherwise we would be mining asteroids, colonising the moon in giant goldfish bowls and terraforming Mars. |
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friendoken
Joined: 19 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: |
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I believe in intelligent life. Sometimes it is found right here on earth! But, having said that, I hope there is life out in the universe. I believe there is, and I believe contact will occur formally in the future. Formally? Yes, because I also believe that informal contact has already been made.
There have been too many occurrences - many from people with nothing to gain and everything to lose - to ignore all of them. |
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jou ma se poes
Joined: 13 Apr 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: |
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friendoken wrote: |
I believe in intelligent life. Sometimes it is found right here on earth! But, having said that, I hope there is life out in the universe. I believe there is, and I believe contact will occur formally in the future. Formally? Yes, because I also believe that informal contact has already been made.
There have been too many occurrences - many from people with nothing to gain and everything to lose - to ignore all of them. |
Yeah I absolutely agree - man has had too many occurrences with gods to make the concept of a superior being bogus.
I like Zeus, just for his slutty ways, and you? |
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doc_ido

Joined: 03 Sep 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that it's only a matter of time before we discover an Earth-sized, Earth-like planet. Getting there for a closer look is another matter entirely though.
On a side-topic, does anyone else run SETI@home? I just restarted and it's a lot easier than it used to be. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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I'd rather see humanity be completely eradicated. Whether it's by aliens or humanity's own stupidity doesn't matter. There needs to be a clean slate! |
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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"The discovery of the New World made a profound difference to the old."
Yes, Native North Americans will certainly attest to this.
and whatever would we do without Big Macs or KFC?
Will we find or be found? |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Underwaterbob wrote: |
"The discovery of the New World made a profound difference to the old."
Yes, Native North Americans will certainly attest to this.
and whatever would we do without Big Macs or KFC?
Will we find or be found? |
Hope to god we find rather than being found my friends. |
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