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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: Has John McCain used this period effectively? |
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Has John McCain used this period effectively to get ready for the general election?
8. McCain has had the general- election field largely to himself the past month. He has effectively consolidated the party establishment and tamped down talk that the base doesn't like him (although he may not have solved that problem). He has done a biographical tour, embarked yesterday on a campaign swing to show his openness to minority voters, and has tackled economic issues.
Republicans are cautiously optimistic that McCain's campaign is doing what it should. They say he is wisely making organizational changes for the fall, that his economic message has solidified the party's base and that he has appeared as a grown-up amid squabbling by Democrats.
"He knows that his key to victory is building a coalition on top of a Republican base that includes conservative Democrats and Independents who are drawn to his bipartisan credentials," wrote Kevin Madden, who was press secretary in Mitt Romney's presidential campaign.
Democrats think he is squandering this period. If he loses, they say, he will regret not putting more distance between himself and President Bush now and not taking over center ground more aggressively before Obama or Clinton can move back to the middle after their left-leaning nomination battle.
Privately, a number of Republicans agree. Some fear that neither McCain nor the Republican National Committee is doing enough to overcome the Democrats' energy and financial resources, and look good now primarily because Obama and Clinton are preoccupied with each other.
"After their race is over, their winner will get a bump in the polls," a GOP strategist wrote. "The McCain campaign's ability to respond to that will be their first real test of the general." |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/21/AR2008042102805_3.html?sid=ST2008042103408
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stillnotking

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Location: Oregon, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:47 am Post subject: |
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He's doing what he can. His biggest problem is that he simply doesn't have much money -- it's an issue that will dog him for the entire campaign.
What he really needs to be doing more of is demonizing Obama. That's the only way he will get the big conservative $$. Conservatives don't like McCain and they never will, but he might be able to present Obama as so evil and un-American that anything looks good by comparison. So far, though, his attacks have been very tame.
I just don't think McCain has the temperament to run the kind of scorched-earth campaign that he needs to run. Which says good things about his character, but bad things about his chances. |
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mnhnhyouh

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Location: The Middle Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: |
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stillnotking wrote: |
I just don't think McCain has the temperament to run the kind of scorched-earth campaign that he needs to run. Which says good things about his character, but bad things about his chances. |
and even worse things about the voters.....
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Bob Beckel and I agree that McCain isn't maximizing his advantage at this time.
But for some inexplicable reason, after winning Florida and becoming the presumptive Republican nominee, McCain once again abandoned his maverick image and returned to courting the right. McCain accepted a televised interview with Sean Hannity. I talked to Hannity after the interview. He told me, correctly, that he had gotten McCain to commit to the Bush tax and economic policies; back off the McCain/Kennedy immigration solution; and to nominate conservative Supreme Court justices.
The court promise was remarkable since it was McCain's efforts in the bipartisan "Gang of 14" that had avoided an all-out war in the Senate over Bush's judicial nominees. McCain had also publicly admonished Bush's Supreme Court nominee, Samuel Alito, for wearing "his conservative ideology on his sleeve," further inflaming the right. In a massive flip-flop McCain later spoke at the annual Washington gathering of conservatives (CPAC) promising to appoint future Supreme Court nominees in the mold of Alito.
Today, McCain still pays lip service to bipartisanship and attempts to hold on to some semblance of his maverick/independent image by campaigning in the black ghettoes of New York and the poverty-ridden Appalachians. Lacking unified Democratic opposition and fortified by an adoring press, McCain has been able to maintain this transparent shadow of his former image. That will end soon when the Democrats have a nominee who will draw attention to McCain's near total embrace of the Bush agenda.
To make matters worse, McCain's capitulation to the right has forced him to remain silent while Barack Obama has absconded with the anti-Washington, post-partisanship image. That image, once owned by John McCain, is the most powerful message among swing voters who will determine the next president.
By so doing, McCain has also abandoned the one weapon that might have overcome the historical and anti-Republican climate in 2008. It is that very McCain message which will gain Obama the Democratic nomination and likely the White House. McCain is now forced to convince the voters that another four years of Bush policies is exactly what the country needs. Democrats, prone to let victory slip away, should give thanks that the reactionaries on the right are still in charge of the Republican agenda.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/why_mccain_cant_win.html |
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Khenan

Joined: 25 Dec 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Amen. |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: |
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McCain is using his surrogates to swing the mud for him, like Cunningham did.
Although, they do tend to go TOOO far, such as the North Carolina GOP did this week.
http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/mccain-asks-nc-gop-not-to-run-ad/20080423135809990001
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Republican John McCain asked the North Carolina GOP not to run a television ad that brings up the controversial former pastor of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
North Carolina Republican party officials insisted the ad will run as planned despite McCain's request.
The ad opens with a photo of Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright together and a clip of Wright, whose incendiary comments about race have bedeviled Obama.
"He's just too extreme for North Carolina," the narrator says in the 30-second spot.
"We asked them not to run it," McCain told reporters on his campaign bus in Kentucky Wednesday. "I'm sending them an e-mail as we speak asking them to take it down.
"I don't know why they do it. Obviously, I don't control them, but I'm making it very clear, as I have a couple of times in the past, that there's no place for that kind of campaigning, and the American people don't want it," McCain said.
McCain said the ad was described to him: "I didn't see it, and I hope that I don't see it." |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Re: the NC ad
This is the kind of thing that makes me and a lot of others respect McCain. I like his integrity in this situation. I won't vote for him because I disagree with just about every policy he has, but I do respect him as a man. |
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TECO

Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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"We asked them not to run it," McCain told reporters on his campaign bus in Kentucky Wednesday. "I'm sending them an e-mail as we speak asking them to take it down.
"I don't know why they do it. Obviously, I don't control them, but I'm making it very clear, as I have a couple of times in the past, that there's no place for that kind of campaigning, and the American people don't want it," McCain said.
McCain said the ad was described to him: "I didn't see it, and I hope that I don't see it." |
if that's not just political grandstanding but the way he truly feels, you gotta respect a personality like that.
on the other hand, as has been mentioned - it'd just be another 4 years of bush policies. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: |
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on the other hand, as has been mentioned - it'd just be another 4 years of bush policies. |
Thats not a guarantee.
We have got so used to being lied to, it would be great to see him win and then shaft the republicans by making changes to his speeches.
By the way, I don't see the democratic policy as being a winner unless they help out thier supporters in Iraq by giving them citizenship.
You dont want another Saigon 1975 on your hands.
The reason most of the world doesn't trust the USA to stick to thier word is the photo's of helicopters being pushed off ships, refugees boating to new countries and everything else that says "the USA cuts and runs when it gets hard, 1975".
Great reputation to have, Usama bet on it, why don't we? |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Well, the NC ad is no longer an issue. The TV stations don't wanna air it.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/north-carolina.html
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"I just don't think it's appropriate to be on our air," Joe Pomilla, general manager for WSOC-TV, told The Charlotte Observer. "I think it's offensive, and I'm not real comfortable with the implications around race." |
McCain has other issues to deal with. More on that later. |
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Czarjorge

Joined: 01 May 2007 Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:55 am Post subject: |
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HAS, not Is. HAS
Sorry to be that guy, but it's been driving me crazy since the thread went up. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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He really doesn't need to do much of anything. He can sit back and watch the Democrats commit suicide.
http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10961825
It should also be pointed out that polls show that there are a number of Democrats who would rather vote for McCain than someone on the other side (Obama vs Clinton) as internal politics have become so bitter. Now this doesn't necessarily mean they WILL vote for McCain, but even if they just stay home it will weaken the overall Democratic vote.
McCain's chances are looking pretty good about right now. |
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