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What do you do with advanced elementary students?

 
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politica



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: Suwon-si

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: What do you do with advanced elementary students? Reply with quote

Last week was my first meeting with the advanced class at my public elementary school. My co-teacher prepared a Goldilocks and the Three Bears roleplay activity. I didn't care much for it and neither did the students. So, it is part of my job to create the lesson plans for the class, and we have no text book.

That being said, I thought I would do something creative! and interesting! and fun! this week. A student newscast with funny Oddly Enough stories (about a camel beauty pageant, etc.). Plan was for them to work on the newscast today and deliver it in front of the class tomorrow. Easy enough, right?

Wrong. My students now hate me. What I can't figure out is if the assignment really was too hard . . . or if they are just lacking initiative. I feel like the class really is bright, and several of the students have lived in the U.S., but I just can't figure out what their level is.

So here's my question- what sorts of things have you done with your advanced elementary class that have been successful? I'm looking for anything fun- can last 1/2 a period, or 3 periods, I don't care- and easy to explain. And I'm not a big fan of roleplay.

Help?

Thanks,
Politica
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Politica,

I can sympathize.....

I don't want to reinvent the wheel. Grab a coffee and sit down and read some of the 75 lessons (each more than just one lesson, really ideas for many lessons) I've expounded/desribed here.

http://eflclassroom.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=826870%3ATopic%3A10395

Lots that will help. all with instantly downloadable materials. Can't get more helpful than that. Not a lot of role playing....just a short sign up to the community.

PS. I'd try the Little Mole play I adapted from the book. Play the book in our video player.... here is the thread. Kids love this book and it is BIG in Korea. You'll be loved after this Smile This play works wonders too....

http://eflclassroom.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=826870%3ATopic%3A10395

Cheers,

David
http://eflclassroom.ning.com
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Becka



Joined: 28 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many students do you have in the class? That'll influence which activities work and which ones don't, I think. Something that'll work for 5 students might not be so interesting for 20.
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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goldilocks and the Three Bears roleplay activity Rolling Eyes Your co-teacher is a dumbass. You will have allot of fun with your class, I'm sure of it.
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gangpae



Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: What do you do with advanced elementary students? Reply with quote

politica wrote:
Last week was my first meeting with the advanced class at my public elementary school. My co-teacher prepared a Goldilocks and the Three Bears roleplay activity. I didn't care much for it and neither did the students. So, it is part of my job to create the lesson plans for the class, and we have no text book.

That being said, I thought I would do something creative! and interesting! and fun! this week. A student newscast with funny Oddly Enough stories (about a camel beauty pageant, etc.). Plan was for them to work on the newscast today and deliver it in front of the class tomorrow. Easy enough, right?

Wrong. My students now hate me. What I can't figure out is if the assignment really was too hard . . . or if they are just lacking initiative. I feel like the class really is bright, and several of the students have lived in the U.S., but I just can't figure out what their level is.

So here's my question- what sorts of things have you done with your advanced elementary class that have been successful? I'm looking for anything fun- can last 1/2 a period, or 3 periods, I don't care- and easy to explain. And I'm not a big fan of roleplay.

Help?

Thanks,
Politica


Sorry to hear about your issues. To be truthful I don't think your problem is with lesson planning. Your issue is about discipline. Students need discipline and you have to provide it. I've been in situations like this before - you're being tested. You need to show this class who is in charge. Is it you or is fatty with conch? Start off simple, find the ring leader and step on his toe and make it hurt. Half-heartedly apologize and get back to the lesson. That should work, but some students aren't so smart so you might have to get tougher. You might have to pull tough guy outside and threaten him. I've done it several times and it works. After that you can go back to being Mister nice guy.
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couple things:
1) Differentiate between students "not liking +complaining+ not learning" and "not liking+complaining". I found that sometimes, kids just bitch to be cool.
2) Don't let there opinion affect you TOO much. I think your idea sounds great. If your coteacher liked your idea too, then it's clearly a personality issue with students. It wouldn't have anything to do with your lesson plan/activity/behaviour schemes.

3) You've only had this class twice and you are already claiming the kids "hate" you? I don't mean to sound dismissive but doesn't that seem a BIT melodramatic? Give yourself at least a FEW meetings before you decide they hate you. And keep in mind that projecting that so soon will end up putting a mental barrier in place that isn't easy to remove.

4) Sometimes kids won't like lessons. If it's important to you that kids LIKE what you do in class, ask for their opinion and create your lessons with those things in mind. I'd suggest that you begin with asking questions like "what do you enjoy more talking/reading? Do you like being creative?" Don't ask them about specific lessons or activities; well, I mean, you can do that but that will only help you out on a case by case basis. If you ask broader questions, then you'll be able to frame your lessons so they can enjoy it more. If you find out they don't like being imaginative, then keep your ideas highly structured and spoon fed.

5) It's cool that you're asking for help but simply put, you should know a LOT more about your students than we do and our ideas won't necessarily be any better than something you can cook up.


Best of luck though.
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creesschaef



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you do with advanced elementary students? Reply with quote

politica wrote:
Wrong. My students now hate me. What I can't figure out is if the assignment really was too hard . . . or if they are just lacking initiative. I feel like the class really is bright, and several of the students have lived in the U.S., but I just can't figure out what their level is.

So here's my question- what sorts of things have you done with your advanced elementary class that have been successful? I'm looking for anything fun- can last 1/2 a period, or 3 periods, I don't care- and easy to explain. And I'm not a big fan of roleplay.

Help?

Thanks,
Politica


Well, assuming you aren't limited to your classroom, take the students outside. They spend most of their lives inside, studying and playing computer games, so teach them something involving nature or even sports. I prefer to alternate between the classroom and outside, it keeps the kids attentive, they never know what they will have to remember for the next outdoor activity.

I had a class that was quite advanced last year. I could tell that they were feeling down, so I decided to make up some lessons involving outdoor activities. Most kids are competitive, so sports are a good start. It took some prodding of the boss, but I was finally allowed to take the kids out.

I taught my kids how to play kickball. Once they knew the rules and English to go with it, I was able to add in extra activities. If a students gets to first base, they have to answer a question to stay there. This is a great way to review, as the students really want to win and don't want to be the weak link on the team.

Maybe the students didn't like the role-play and newscast, I wouldn't have either. The way I remember school, I didn't like it all that much. Class doesn't always have to be fun, but it should be fun enough. That doesn't mean that they didn't learn anything though. Base your questions on those activities and see what they have retained.
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Countrygirl



Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I do for my afterschool classes is on the first day I have them make a name page with their name written in bold letters and words describing themselves (mother, father, brother, pet rabbit; born in New York; like kimchi, rice and hamburgers; etc). Then I put the name page on the wall and I tell them that every time they do something well, they get a sticker. At the end of 2 months the person with the most stickers will get a prize and if the whole class gets a lot of stickers, there will be a movie day (and they can bring their own snacks) or game day.

I first tried this because I needed a way to remember 20 students names that I only see once a week. I've done this with 5 classes so far (only the special classes and camps) and they all love it. I train them to come in and open their books before class starts and they get a sticker. If someone does a presentation I ask questions. If they know they answer, they get a sticker. I also have them get into groups and do competitive word games and the winning groups get stickers. It also works in reverse...act badly and lose a sticker.

This is not a lesson plan, but it did help them to feel engaged in the class and make them excited to get their homework done, etc. Name pages also give you a chance for you to get to know them. Keep it simple and give it time; they'll come around.

(ps. I think your lesson might have failed because most Korean students don't like presenting in front of their peers especially in the beginning. After they figure out your style of teaching, they might enjoy doing this sort of lesson.)
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