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40,000 polygamists live in the U.S.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:25 am    Post subject: 40,000 polygamists live in the U.S. Reply with quote

According to this issue of People's Magazine.

40,000 polygamists live in the U.S.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you mean to post a link with that?
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to, but I can't.

Just read it in a People magazines article on the Texas LDS story. No link for it unfortunately.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
I would like to, but I can't.

Just read it in a People magazines article on the Texas LDS story. No link for it unfortunately.


No problem. The number sounds plausible to me. I assume that they mean "40 000 people living in polygamous marriages", as opposed to "40 000 polygamous marriages"?
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the article, they say 'there are an estimated 40,000 polygamists living in the United States, almost all of them with former ties to the Mormon church'.

The same article also interviews several polygamists. There seems to be a theme that having many kids are a blessing. So to have 30 or 40 children with several wives, means that you all go to heaven together, etc.

Anyways, there are going to be some massive demographic shifts with those kind of family units.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In the article, they say 'there are an estimated 40,000 polygamists living in the United States, almost all of them with former ties to the Mormon church'.


I guess it depends on how you define "former". I'd imagine that a lot of the people at YFZ ranch, for example, haven't been part of the Mormon church proper for a few generations now. So does "former ties" include having Mormon(as in, the church with that big temple in Salt Lake City) ancestors?

(I'm not neccessarily asking you to elaborate on the article's meaning, just kind of wondering aloud.)
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
I would like to, but I can't.

Just read it in a People magazines article on the Texas LDS story. No link for it unfortunately.


FLDS. They're a different group from the LDS. Here is a story on the FLDS folks in Texas.
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than the fact that it's illegal for political reasons, I don't think there's anything essentially wrong with polygamy when done by qualified people without duplicity.
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Other than the fact that it's illegal for political reasons, I don't think there's anything essentially wrong with polygamy when done by qualified people without duplicity.



What exactly do you have to major in to become "qualified" for this .... Poly Science?
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is a story on the FLDS folks in Texas


Interesting article, thanks.
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Neil



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a book called 'Under the banner of God' that bangs on about the rise of the FLDS, to be fair I found it unbiased as it pointed out many times the LDS have no time for the FLDS...recommended read.
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://torontosun.com/News/TorontoAndGTA/2008/02/08/4834588-sun.html

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Hundreds of GTA Muslim men in polygamous marriages -- some with a harem of wives -- are receiving welfare and social benefits for each of their spouses, thanks to the city and province, Muslim leaders say.


I have no real opposition to polygamy I guess. The welfare that encourages it isn't really a good thing.
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant "qualified" mainly in an economic (not academic) sense - if one can afford to maintain more than one wife (or husband) and everyone consents to the arrangement, what's wrong with it?
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neil wrote:
There's a book called 'Under the banner of God' that bangs on about the rise of the FLDS, to be fair I found it unbiased as it pointed out many times the LDS have no time for the FLDS...recommended read.

Great book.

Last year I was in Las Vegas, and I was SO tempted to drive up to Colorodo City, Utah... which is apparently the largest concentration of FLDS members in the world.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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everyone consents to the arrangement, what's wrong with it?


For me, the trick comes with the word 'consent'. How does one ensure free consent?
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