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wormholes101

Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2003 6:02 pm Post subject: How has Korea changed you? |
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I think that since living in Korea I have become a more impatient person. The 'bbali bbali' (quickly, quickly) has got to me. I used to be a very laid back person... Do it tomorrow attitude... now, i want it now....
Also, terrible as it may sound, the patriarchal Korean society has rubbed off on me and my attitude towards women has changed... I remember before I came here, a (girl) friend who had been in Japan a few years said to me... "Paul, don't become one of those guys who thinks their god's gift to women... " I not quite at that stage yet but something has changed.
I'm sure I've changed in a lot more ways in the 3 years since I've been here .... Maybe I'll add some comments later when I can think of more... |
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waterbaby

Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2003 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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I too used to be really laid back and nothing much ever upset or bothered me. Korea has certainly helped me tap into my temper ... perhaps a combination of culture shock and my last Director helped unleash the devil in me ... I'm sad to say. But, the squeaky wheel gets the grease ... another great lesson Korea taught me.
I've also become a lot less tolerable of friends/acquaintences who take take take and ply me with "woe poor me" tales and then refuse to take any action or advice to get their act together... same old same old over and over again... and they give nothing back in return... I can be quite mean to them. Back in Oz, I would've been much more tolerant and less confrontational. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2003 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure its Korea so much as getting into teaching .. but my selfconfidence in front of groups of people has mushroomed. The prospect of addressing 10 people for half an hour would have had me in sleepless anxiety a few years ago, now I can quite happily adlib a 2-hour speech to 200. In fact I quite relish the chance, its a good jag.
In terms of interacting with Koreans, I've discovered a nice confirmation of the value of being laidback & intuitive. Wont take you far in the western ratrace but makes friends & influences people here. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2003 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Korea changed my accent from kiwi to north american.
I've become a lot more tolerant of people then I was back home. Mainly because I'm the stupid one here, ie. not knowing the language/culture etc.
I've had to become a lot more humble. At my last job back home I was the boss, now I'm a pleb.
I'm a lot more comfortable with my own company now, I don't feel I have to go out all the time.
Crowd control skills are improving as is my chopstick skills.
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Have become less healthy. Used to have a fair amount of muscle from sports and running around the Candian forests on weekends/summers doing whatever. This is the worst shape I've been in for years. Can't wait to get home for good. I'm going to sleep outside in the fresh air for a whole month. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 4:37 am Post subject: |
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It turned my blood into kimchi. |
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William Beckerson Guest
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 5:08 am Post subject: |
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It has taught me the fine skill of being cold-blooded. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:05 am Post subject: |
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How has Korea changed me?
1) I love drinking more often.
2) I speak much slower and in completely full sentences.
3) I've become more pro-American than I ever was before in my life.. I never cared for the USA when I lived there.. but hearing alot of ignorant stereotypes about the place makes me irritated so many people have so many gross generalizations and have no idea what they are talking about.. this doesn't only apply to Koreans either..
4) I have mastered the art of non-verbal communication..
5) My toleration level is much lower than it use to be.. and unfortunately, I think Koreans have made me a much more serious person than I ever was before in my life.. or is that age? Nah, I think its Koreans.. they are much too serious!
6) As much as I like western women, I have become completely indifferent to them in that what they think of me has very little effect as they aren't in my dating pool hardly at all.. (not that I wouldn't mind.. i just seldom if ever encounter any).. plus perhaps I just find myself unable to relate in the same way I would have if I had been in the USA all of this time.. I guess I've become a much more prominent member of the korean girl dating pool.. and adjusting to that quirkiness for better or worse..
7) I love chopsticks.. I eat anything and everything with them even though Koreans tell me that I should be eating fried rice with a spoon..
8 ) I've become brutally honest, Korean-style. |
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Ody

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: over here
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 8:16 am Post subject: |
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tiger beer,
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3) I've become more pro-American than I ever was before in my life.. I never cared for the USA when I lived there.. but hearing alot of ignorant stereotypes about the place makes me irritated so many people have so many gross generalizations and have no idea what they are talking about.. this doesn't only apply to Koreans either.. |
' same goes for me. and, i must say, i have enjoyed your posts/threads about the usa. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 8:35 am Post subject: |
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I have become tired of reading Tiger's posts. He wouldn't pass grade 6 English in Canada. Pro-American? Pro-Remedial. |
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GirlFromMars

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Corea do Sul
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 8:37 am Post subject: |
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well stop reading them! I like Tiger's posts |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Ody wrote: |
tiger beer,
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3) I've become more pro-American than I ever was before in my life.. I never cared for the USA when I lived there.. but hearing alot of ignorant stereotypes about the place makes me irritated so many people have so many gross generalizations and have no idea what they are talking about.. this doesn't only apply to Koreans either.. |
' same goes for me. and, i must say, i have enjoyed your posts/threads about the usa. |
Thanks Ody.. its funny isn't it? Being abroad.. and just hearing all of this unbelievably uninformed ideas/opinions/thoughts about the US and American people.. its just.. shocking and ironic.. as its often said with such undying uninformed ignorant conviction..
I don't mind intelligent conversations about the American government.. intelligent.. but I don't like accusatory conversations.. I also don't like "all americans are like.."
I wish people could be slightly more open-minded about things and realize that people regardless of nationality are very multi-dimensional.. and so are their ideas, thoughts, opinions, attitudes, personality-traits, education levels, background, what they've been exposed to, etc.
Anyhow, oddly, I have become more pro-American than anytime ever in my life.. we get educated in the American system to question ourselves.. plus its reinforced through American music, movies, culture, nearly every aspect.. and you think its only a domestic audience.. but later realize that unfortunately the rest of the world is listening to those same american voices and seeminly to very strongly pick-up significantly more on the negative voices.. like Michael Moore, the Vietnam movies, our musicians, our liberal voices, our questioning voices, our films and such which do question things, etc.. which is fine.. but they are tapping into our people.. whose voices are for us.. and twisting it on us.. just weird.. particuarly since most Americans, like myself, really respect the ones who challenge the system and challenge the status-quo and want change and don't accept the norm..
Anyhow.. just interesting..
Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
I have become tired of reading Tiger's posts. He wouldn't pass grade 6 English in Canada. Pro-American? Pro-Remedial. |
This guy is without question the biggest American basher on the forum.. and the biggest embarrassment to all the Canadians who are sick of American bashing.. and the Canadian/American thing that goes on here..
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well stop reading them! I like Tiger's posts |
Thanks GirlFromMars! |
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thorin

Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 10:11 am Post subject: |
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crazylemongirl wrote: |
Korea changed my accent from kiwi to north american. |
yeah right. |
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shaundafarmer
Joined: 22 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Just for your information linguist experts:
'North American " isn't an accent , it's a geographical term.
Someone may have a Midwestern accent, specifically from a certain town, or a Brooklyn accent, or Dublin, or Bristol, but no-one can have a general accent from an area the size of N. America.
Just for your information cunning linguists. Why anyone would attempt to change their vowel sounds just to suit a bunch of American -hating East Asians beggars belief though. |
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Emma Clare

Joined: 24 May 2003 Location: Anseong, sung, song.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Korea changed my accent from kiwi to north american. |
yeah right. |
Can't see why not. I had this wicked South African come British thing going on with my accent for some time (SA boyfriend!) Happens all the time, people pick up other people's accents. Christ, I'm even starting to use American vocab without meaning to. And that's after emailing, yet alone speaking to Americans!
Hey, out of interest, are there many South Africans or Aussies out there? Or Brits even? Seems to mostly be you Americans & Canadians. You seem to be lovely (bless you all) But you also seem to be constantly bickering with each other, which to a non-Canadian/American just seems really silly!
Edit: I can see the advantage in adopting a 'North American' accent. But I am adamant that I will not DELIBERATELY change my nice English accent to an American one, just because someone tells me to. "It's often better if you can manage to use an American accent...." No way!!! If I get a 'lilt' to my voice that means I'll have an English/American blend, then that can't be helped I guess!
We have a hundred different accents in the UK. Does a Mancunian accent sound anything like a Thames Estuary one? No it doesn't. I think that 'BBC English', or what's known as 'received English' is the one most people think of though, as being English. It's that kind of upper class accent that Prince Charles has. Being 'well spoken'. My point is, that despite the huge diversity of accents in any given country, most countries still have a particular/specific accent associated with them, due primarily to what is popular in, and what is exposed through, the media.
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