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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: Have they gone completely mad? Reply with quote

Just saw this posted on CNN. They didn't give any context, but given the date posted I'm assuming this is a reaction to the new agreement to only import under 30 month beef.

I'm not optimistic given the average American knows more about North Korea than south, but if this catches on back home, it's going to look rediculous.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/06/22/vo.skorea.rally.beef.ap
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Alyssa



Joined: 15 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What intellectuals KLand has.


I wonder if they think the world will think they are great for pulling apart a bus.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an excerpt from an article found under the video.

Protests greet S. Korea-U.S. beef deal
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/06/21/skorea.beef.ap/index.html
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South Korea said it will resume imports of U.S. beef after U.S. and South Korean suppliers agreed to block meat from older cattle, aiming to soothe health concerns that sparked weeks of demonstrations against new President Lee Myung-bak....

"The age verification system will be in place until concerns over safety of U.S. beef subside," South Korean Trade Minister Kim told reporters in Seoul. He said South Korea will have the right to inspect U.S. slaughterhouses and will not import parts of cattle such as brains, eyes, skulls and spinal cords that can carry mad cow disease.

The new agreement drew criticism from both sides in the trade dispute.

Democratic U.S. Sen. Max Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, argued there was no scientific reason to limit imports of U.S. beef. U.S. meat has been certified as safe to consume by the Paris-based World Organization for Animal Health.

"The implications of this agreement set an unfortunate precedent for U.S. beef trade with Korea and other countries," Baucus said in a statement.

The coalition of South Korean civic groups that has supported the protests said the voluntary agreement did not go far enough and vowed to continue demonstrating.

"We made it clear that a complete renegotiation is the only alternative that can fundamentally solve the people's concerns about mad cow disease," the coalition said in a statement.


Eating meat products contaminated with mad cow disease is linked to variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, a rare and deadly nerve disease
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
there was no scientific reason to limit imports of U.S. beef.


Neither scientific considerations, nor the employ of logic, was ever a factor in the mass hissy-fit that those SK pinkos and their brainwashed sheep-lemming followers have been throwing.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's hilarious that South Korea is "reserving the right to inspect US slaughterhouses." Perhaps the Korean populace would be better served if they'd exercise the right to inspect Korean slaughterhouses--especially the illegal trade in dog.

Come to think of it, I would love to be on site for the very first inspection to see the reaction of the inspector when the plant manager not only refuses to pay a bribe but calls in law enforcement!
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bovinerebel



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All kids playing "protest". The police shouldn't bother to even turn up.

It's a sad alientated society that has to go to this sort of extreme to get a sense of belonging.
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bovinerebel wrote:
All kids playing "protest". The police shouldn't bother to even turn up.
It's a sad alientated society that has to go to this sort of extreme to get a sense of belonging.


This is what I have been saying for years. The protesters dont loot, dont hurt innocent bystanders. When the police show up it gives them someone to get violent with. The police should just stay away and let the protesters jerk off alone.
( If the protesters do get surly, just come in with helicopters and fire rubber bullets and tear gas from the air.)
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it's full of stars



Joined: 26 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be cool, just need a decent sound track and we're good to go. Sound track for a riot? "I predict a riot" by the Kaiser chiefs.
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bovinerebel



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beej wrote:
bovinerebel wrote:
All kids playing "protest". The police shouldn't bother to even turn up.
It's a sad alientated society that has to go to this sort of extreme to get a sense of belonging.


This is what I have been saying for years. The protesters dont loot, dont hurt innocent bystanders. When the police show up it gives them someone to get violent with. The police should just stay away and let the protesters jerk off alone.
( If the protesters do get surly, just come in with helicopters and fire rubber bullets and tear gas from the air.)


Right...without police being there , they and their "cause" would lose all public sympathy if thry got out of hand and looted etc.

It's so silly....some Koreans must surely by now be rolling their eyes. I mean....it's pretty silly to go out even once to protest this imaginable issue ...but to spend days protesting it you'd thinka little bit of rational and good information would have seeped into some of their heads.

Is there non one there thinking " Well you know...mathematically speaking these protests have killed twice the amount of people that U.S beef would have in a worst predicted scenario (assuming only 1 person died in protest ...if mad cows followed the worst case scenario andsafety standards were reversed by 8 years , then 0.4 korean would have died.) ...maybe we really are getting a little carried away.....perhaps best to not light ourselves on fire or drink any cool aid just yet."

Silly korea.
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Stevie_B



Joined: 14 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's full of stars wrote:
That would be cool, just need a decent sound track and we're good to go. Sound track for a riot? "I predict a riot" by the Kaiser chiefs.


Followed by 'Riot' by Dead Kennedys, 'There's a Riot Going On' by Sly and the Family Stone, 'White Riot' by The Clash, and err... 'Riot Here, Riot Now' by Fatboy Slim.
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Captain Marlow



Joined: 23 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"It's really sickening. Sometimes you think that you're in a madhouse. And in a way, you are. Each of those jerk-offs thinks he knows more than the other jerkoffs and there they were all together in one place. And there I was, sitting there with them." -- Bukowski
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
That's hilarious that South Korea is "reserving the right to inspect US slaughterhouses." Perhaps the Korean populace would be better served if they'd exercise the right to inspect Korean slaughterhouses--especially the illegal trade in dog.

Come to think of it, I would love to be on site for the very first inspection to see the reaction of the inspector when the plant manager not only refuses to pay a bribe but calls in law enforcement!


I think inspecting foreign agricultural sites is a common part of free trade agreements.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is but the funny thing is that a nation with the lowest-rated beef is demanding to inspect the nation with the highest-rated beef.
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ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
It is but the funny thing is that a nation with the lowest-rated beef is demanding to inspect the nation with the highest-rated beef.


The US doesn't have the highest ranking beef. Japan does. Also Japan inspects 100% of its beef.
Europe also has much more stringent inspection programs than the US.
I am not sure if Canada inspects more cattle but i wouldn't be surprised if Canada also better inspected its beef.
The other week I read an article about how the US, since Bush has been elected, has cut spending to all sorts of inspection agencies.
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640x480



Joined: 02 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say 70% of the protestors are "sheep" as one poster said. The others are using this opportunity to protest against President Lee and his administration.

I think it is more frustrating for us since we come from a society that values individualism.
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