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riley



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: Music questions for musiclovers Reply with quote

What exactly is Acid Jazz? I've listened to some stuff that is in a jazz vein but not quite, so I want to know what you guys think.

Next, has anyone heard of Steriod Maximus, (not the poster, sorry) and can reccomend something similar to it? I tried Pandora but it didn't recognize the group.
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robot



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for similar music see other ipecac bands:

http://www.myspace.com/ipecacrecordings

you may wanna start with something that mike patton was involved in -- mr. bungle or fantomas to start.

ennio morricone is more classic. but he might be what you're after, too.

ROBT.
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Totti



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: Music questions for musiclovers Reply with quote

riley wrote:

Next, has anyone heard of Steriod Maximus, (not the poster, sorry) and can reccomend something similar to it? I tried Pandora but it didn't recognize the group.


you could try his J.G thirwells other projects like foetus and manorexia (sp?) Other bands you could try are Estradasphere, secret chiefs 3 and flat earth society.
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Oreovictim



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Mahavishu Orchestra would probably be the first acid-jazz bands. Can't go wrong with their Birds of Fire CD.
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Stevie_B



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out some of Gilles Peterson's compilations for good samplers of acid jazz, and bands like Brand New Heavies, James Taylor Quartet. Galliano, Thievery Corporation and Corduroy.

Acid jazz is basically just laidback, modal (or 'cool') jazz that sometimes makes use of loops and synths and what-have-you, and often involves middle class white British types appropriating US black iconography and culture (think of all the clubnights and bar sessions you've ignored called things like 'Shaft' and 'Superfly'). It has its highpoints, but a lot of it is very pretentious and wanky.
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Stevie_B



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out some of Gilles Peterson's compilations for good samplers of acid jazz, and bands like Brand New Heavies, James Taylor Quartet. Galliano, Thievery Corporation and Corduroy.

Acid jazz is basically just laidback, modal (or 'cool') jazz that sometimes makes use of loops and synths and what-have-you, and often involves middle class white British types appropriating US black iconography and culture (think of all the clubnights and bar sessions you've ignored called things like 'Shaft' and 'Superfly'). It has its highpoints, but a lot of it is very pretentious and wanky.
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BS.Dos.



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the best of my knowledge, Acid Jazz, in the UK at least, was a modestly popular musical genre that emerged into the broader underground music consciousness sometime after the initial House music explosion around the early 1990's, the appeal of which was possibly though not entirely, a direct result of the changing tastes of fickle music lovers who'd grown increasing bored and dissatisfied with the widespread prevalence of highly programmed and repetitive 'digital' dance music and, who sought something more than the largely 'faceless' digital dance music scene offered.

Being (initially) largely analogue in nature, the sound of Acid Jazz can loosely be described as being one which embraced all the musical reference points along the axis of funk, jazz and Northern Soul to name but a few. As this new 'alternative' sound found a wider audience, it wasn't long before the growing number of acts who championed the sound found a vehicle for their music by way of the appropriately and brand savvy named Acid Jazz Records. While acts such as Galliano, The James Taylor Quartet and Corduroy enjoyed modest success, it was through bands such as The Brand New Heavies and, to a lesser extent, Jamiroquai that both the sound and label found it's biggest audience.

In retrospect, the appeal of the genre was relatively short lived. Both popular culture and the musical climate of the time was in the throes of transition with highly experimental, cross-genre styles of music being the order of the day and, it wasn't long before newer sounds became the preference of choice for many (think Trip-Hop and Lounge House etc) who viewed Acid Jazz as being perhaps just a little to 'woolly' and 'noodley' for their more mainstream "Let's 'ave it!" musical taste.

For anyone looking for an entry point into the sounds of Acid Jazz, then I'd personally suggest taking a look at the Rebirth Of Cool
series, which while not strictly Acid Jazz per se, it'll give you an idea of the wider sound.
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Stevie_B



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BS.Dos. wrote:
To the best of my knowledge, Acid Jazz, in the UK at least, was a modestly popular musical genre that emerged into the broader underground music consciousness sometime after the initial House music explosion around the early 1990's, the appeal of which was possibly though not entirely, a direct result of the changing tastes of fickle music lovers who'd grown increasing bored and dissatisfied with the widespread prevalence of highly programmed and repetitive 'digital' dance music and, who sought something more than the largely 'faceless' digital dance music scene offered.

Being (initially) largely analogue in nature, the sound of Acid Jazz can loosely be described as being one which embraced all the musical reference points along the axis of funk, jazz and Northern Soul to name but a few. As this new 'alternative' sound found a wider audience, it wasn't long before the growing number of acts who championed the sound found a vehicle for their music by way of the appropriately and brand savvy named Acid Jazz Records. While acts such as Galliano, The James Taylor Quartet and Corduroy enjoyed modest success, it was through bands such as The Brand New Heavies and, to a lesser extent, Jamiroquai that both the sound and label found it's biggest audience.

In retrospect, the appeal of the genre was relatively short lived. Both popular culture and the musical climate of the time was in the throes of transition with highly experimental, cross-genre styles of music being the order of the day and, it wasn't long before newer sounds became the preference of choice for many (think Trip-Hop and Lounge House etc) who viewed Acid Jazz as being perhaps just a little to 'woolly' and 'noodley' for their more mainstream "Let's 'ave it!" musical taste.

For anyone looking for an entry point into the sounds of Acid Jazz, then I'd personally suggest taking a look at the Rebirth Of Cool series, which while not strictly Acid Jazz per se, it'll give you an idea of the wider sound.


Isn't that what I just said?
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BS.Dos.



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your reply wasn't there when I started typing mine.
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Stevie_B



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BS.Dos. wrote:
Your reply wasn't there when I started typing mine.


Wow. How long did it take you? I admire the thoroughness of your research.

Actually, your response is a lot more cogent and edifying than mine.
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BS.Dos.



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd actually finished it, then closed the window by mistake meaning I had to type it out again, which took another 20-minutes.

My MS is closed today so I've got the day off. Just killing time before the hoff opens.
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Stevie_B



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BS.Dos. wrote:
I'd actually finished it, then closed the window by mistake meaning I had to type it out again, which took another 20-minutes.

My MS is closed today so I've got the day off. Just killing time before the hoff opens.


I notice from another thread that you're a Bristol City fan. Guess what - I'm a Hull City fan. It's going to be one hell of a game tomorrow. I reckon we're pretty evenly matched.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stevie_B wrote:
BS.Dos. wrote:
Your reply wasn't there when I started typing mine.


Wow. How long did it take you? I admire the thoroughness of your research.

Actually, your response is a lot more cogent and edifying than mine.


BS. Dos IS music. He's a cross between Gilberto Gil and Rick Astley.
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BS.Dos.



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dome Vans wrote:
Stevie_B wrote:
BS.Dos. wrote:
Your reply wasn't there when I started typing mine.


Wow. How long did it take you? I admire the thoroughness of your research.

Actually, your response is a lot more cogent and edifying than mine.


BS. Dos IS music. He's a cross between Gilberto Gil and Rick Astley.


You make that sound like it's a bad thing.

Quote:
I notice from another thread that you're a Bristol City fan. Guess what - I'm a Hull City fan. It's going to be one hell of a game tomorrow. I reckon we're pretty evenly matched.


I think Hull'll (is that contraction actually possible?) be playing Premiership football next season in all honesty. Your GD this season is far superior to ours and I think finding the back of the net comes easier for the Tigers than it does for us shitheads.

As much as I'd love to see City in the Premier league, I'm not sure that all the necessary resources etc are currently in place. We're, at best, a medium sized Championship team and, if we're to progress and, more importantly, stand a chance of staying in the land of milk and honey, then we need invest a bit more now really. Lansdown needs to speculate a bit more if he wants to accumulate a bit more not that he needs it of course.
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Stevie_B



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BS.Dos. wrote:
Dome Vans wrote:
Stevie_B wrote:
BS.Dos. wrote:
Your reply wasn't there when I started typing mine.


Wow. How long did it take you? I admire the thoroughness of your research.

Actually, your response is a lot more cogent and edifying than mine.


BS. Dos IS music. He's a cross between Gilberto Gil and Rick Astley.


You make that sound like it's a bad thing.

Quote:
I notice from another thread that you're a Bristol City fan. Guess what - I'm a Hull City fan. It's going to be one hell of a game tomorrow. I reckon we're pretty evenly matched.


I think Hull'll (is that contraction actually possible?) be playing Premiership football next season in all honesty. Your GD this season is far superior to ours and I think finding the back of the net comes easier for the Tigers than it does for us shitheads.

As much as I'd love to see City in the Premier league, I'm not sure that all the necessary resources etc are currently in place. We're, at best, a medium sized Championship team and, if we're to progress and, more importantly, stand a chance of staying in the land of milk and honey, then we need invest a bit more now really. Lansdown needs to speculate a bit more if he wants to accumulate a bit more not that he needs it of course.


I hope you're right. I'm still going to be shitting it all the way up to the final whistle.
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