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Summer Wine
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 Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: What is Racist on this forum? |
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20)�Note that we cannot catch all of the racist or demeaning threads that are posted. We will however act on those we see and on those that are reported through the post report function. Authors of such threads will get warnings and if those are ignored, these users will be banned from the site. In short, racism is not acceptable on this site.� ---The Dude
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What is considered racist on Daves? |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I would consider a posting to be racist if it denigrates a race or religious group.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/racist
There's being critical of a race, which is not racist, but there's a fine line being being critical and being racist. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race.
Religion is a social construction. Religion is a social construction. Religion is a social construction.
Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race.
Religion is a social construction. Religion is a social construction. Religion is a social construction.
Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race.
Religion is a social construction. Religion is a social construction. Religion is a social construction.
Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race. Religion is not a race.
Religion is a social construction. Religion is a social construction. Religion is a social construction.
Now click your heels and join the real world. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreans are not a race, either. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Is that what this thread's about - Koreans and Muslims? Good heavens, the odd characters on this board. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
| Koreans are not a race, either. |
What is?
As far as I understand, race is fast becoming an outdated model.
Could not now Ethnicity and Religion be added to what might constitute Racism?
Look at the following:
I don't want to hire that stupid potato eating Ukrainian.
Hey there Ching-chong-Chinaman!
My neighbor just bought a BMW, it must be because of his connection to the vast Jewish conspiracy.
Don't you think the above would qualify as racist statements if made in a public setting? |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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No. We can't change the meaning of the word to fit modern agendas. We already have words to describe a dislike of foreigners (xenophobia) or aggressive religious groups (sanity).
"Racism", while meaningless in the sense that race is largely perceived and not actual, existed and helped justify some horrible things. Muslims (to use the given example) can't use this word to describe things they don't like. Criticism of islam and muslims for islamic behaviors can NEVER be racist. What they want to do is bring the discourse of the word and apply it to a new, and irrelevant setting. With Koreans it is different in that they are a reasonably coherent ethnic group. The word 'racist' is more appropriate to describe a hatred of them, but still not fully appropriate. Bigotry is a more appropriate word. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
No. We can't change the meaning of the word to fit modern agendas. We already have words to describe a dislike of foreigners (xenophobia) or aggressive religious groups (sanity).
"Racism", while meaningless in the sense that race is largely perceived and not actual, existed and helped justify some horrible things. Muslims (to use the given example) can't use this word to describe things they don't like. Criticism of islam and muslims for islamic behaviors can NEVER be racist. What they want to do is bring the discourse of the word and apply it to a new, and irrelevant setting. With Koreans it is different in that they are a reasonably coherent ethnic group. The word 'racist' is more appropriate to describe a hatred of them, but still not fully appropriate. Bigotry is a more appropriate word. |
So if a "white American" sees an Arab looking group and says "Dam Muslims, always messing with our country." That wouldn't qualify as racism?
People often use religion, physical features, or perceived cultural features to focus their racist agendas on.
And as for "change(ing) the meaning of the word to fit modern agendas."
Isn't that what a living language is all about? Correct me if I'm wrong, but do not the meanings of words change and evolve all the time in English? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Prejudice or racism involves when one quickly judges in a hateful fashion an indenifiable group based on religion, cultural grouping or what have you.... You can also have prejudice between people of the same religion.
You can have friction for example between Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews and there are variations. In America, everyone is an American, but you can have prejudice against Catholics like that exhibited by Hagee, perhaps, but I am not aware of all of what Hagee said. |
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