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Do you feel undervalued (updated: salt in the wound)
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maddog



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:42 am    Post subject: Do you feel undervalued (updated: salt in the wound) Reply with quote

UPDATE: Well, they just got back from their trip. One of my co-workers (soon to be my manager) brought back a big fukk-you as a souvenir - a paper fukking hat. Must've cost about 20c....at most. Seriously, a brown paper hat that unfolds and glues togather at the ends. Fukking priceless.


We recently cracked the 1,000 student mark. As a reward for our hard work, the director is taking the staff on a 3-day trip to China. Everyone excpet the FTs. It's all cloak-and-dagger. We weren't even supposed to know, but my mate over-heard something. He asked about it and they were all like "what? china? where did you hear this?" Anyway, we've had it confrimed. He called them out on it earlier and they admitted that it was supposed to be kept secret from us.

What's really annoying is that I've been here since the school opened (most of the FTs have) and I'm not invited. However, ALL the KTs, even the ones who've been here just a few weeks, are invited.

It fuckking stinks of double standards when Koreans who've made such a small contribution to the school are treated way better than foreigners who've been here since day one.

What am I saying?! I've been in Korea long enough that I shouldn't be remotely surprised by this kinda crap. Still annoyed though.

MD


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wawawawonder



Joined: 30 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's despicable.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sure sounds like a big F U there. It is time to make a decision.
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pomegranate_grenade



Joined: 14 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that really sucks. Unless they're paying you some awesome amount of money, start looking for a new job. Find a stellar position, put in notice, and say why. If you refuse to endorse the company to prospective teachers, it will be more difficult for them to replace you.

I'd suggest pulling a midnight run, but I think you'd feel just as undervalued at home making $8/hour at Starbux. Confused

Good luck!
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PGF



Joined: 27 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a big FU from your owner/manager/whoever.

So rude. Even rude by rude K standards. dam#n.

How many FT are there? Right now, it's not the trip you should be thinking about. It's the money that the trip costs that matters.

Give notice, if you are visa able. If they ask why, explain. If they say, "oh you can come". Tell them you want a bonus of X amount and that you'd rather clean oil up off their crappy beach than go to china with the "worse tourists in the world".

If they give the money, take it and teach. If not, find a better job.

If you are not visa able: touch luck. arseholes are arseholes and you are worth as much as a paki factory worker to your hagwon boss. good luck
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Thwartley



Joined: 19 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to be a habit throughout Asia that employers or any group that exists and which includes foreigners on the fringes. There always has to be a way of letting the foreigners know that there's a division, a pecking order etc.

Here's an idea: find out the itinerary, where they are staying etc. Get together with your colleagues and go to the same place. But stay at a more expensive hotel and make sure you cross paths with them and rub it in their faces.
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Chris_Dixon



Joined: 09 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the Korean teachers at my school are on about 500,000 less than what i am and work about 3 hours more than me a day...so hmmm
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DaeguKid



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is crap for sure...seeing as your an original teacher as well. Waygook teachers make a hogwon go alot further than people think. If I were you I would be taking the time off as well while they are in China.
Sorry to hear about that crap situation, but that is what I would do.
DK
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ruffie



Joined: 11 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They just don't want the foreigners to see them visiting Chinese whorehouses and acting like idiots. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Chris Kwon



Joined: 23 Jan 2008
Location: North Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These jerks don't realize that without us foreigners, they can't effectively have a school/hagwon.
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asylum seeker



Joined: 22 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris_Dixon wrote:
the Korean teachers at my school are on about 500,000 less than what i am and work about 3 hours more than me a day...so hmmm


Same at my school, they get paid peanuts compared to us. So I wouldn't begrudge them if they did give them an extra trip, though I guess they should be straight up about it.


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tommy77



Joined: 26 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PGF wrote:
That's a big FU from your owner/manager/whoever.

So rude. Even rude by rude K standards. dam#n.

How many FT are there? Right now, it's not the trip you should be thinking about. It's the money that the trip costs that matters.

Give notice, if you are visa able. If they ask why, explain. If they say, "oh you can come". Tell them you want a bonus of X amount and that you'd rather clean oil up off their crappy beach than go to china with the "worse tourists in the world".

If they give the money, take it and teach. If not, find a better job.

If you are not visa able: touch luck. arseholes are arseholes and you are worth as much as a paki factory worker to your hagwon boss. good luck


You clearly have a problem with non-whites. Also you need to remember that Koreans work a lot harder than the average foreigner, at least in terms of hours and work load.
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ryouga013



Joined: 14 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all the time...
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tommy77 wrote:


You clearly have a problem with non-whites. Also you need to remember that Koreans work a lot harder than the average foreigner, at least in terms of hours and work load.


They may work longer on average but in many cases they don't work efficiently. Time spent unproductively propping up a desk is not equal to working hard. Koreans have mastered the art of making it look as though they are working when they aren't.
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
They just don't want the foreigners to see them visiting Chinese whorehouses and acting like idiots. Nothing more. Nothing less.



Bingo!

This is not a "we have to show those foreigners that Koreans are the boss and we're the best" Dave's paranoia kind of thing...

If the FT's were totally fluent in Korean and culturally assimilated, they'd go too.

The Koreans want to have a good time probably with lots of happy endings, literally. Having FT's to look after is just going to make things tougher for them... Run their "best warm hearted happy time at feel-good Chinese brothel in happy China land"....
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