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Learning Korean, Working at CDI, and making Bank in Korea
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big_blue_21



Joined: 02 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:55 am    Post subject: Learning Korean, Working at CDI, and making Bank in Korea Reply with quote

Hey, I don't know if this helps, but for people who are going to Korea to learn the language I found studying at Konguk University really helpful.

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driftingfocus



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Location: Boston, MA

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's CDI?
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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a thread asking for experiences on intensive language classes while working: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=121892&highlight=

Most people said they killed themselves, but I still might like to try it.
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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Learning Korean, Working at CDI, and making Bankg in Kor Reply with quote

donselma wrote:
The first is about studying Korean and working at CDI at the same time; the second is about getting cheap housing (since CDI does NOT provide housing for its teachers).


How much of a housing allowance do they give you?
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enns



Joined: 02 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No allowance. They pay the deposit and you pay the rent. However, you're also making double the average hagwon salary.
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

enns wrote:
No allowance. They pay the deposit and you pay the rent. However, you're also making double the average hagwon salary.


I find that hard to believe.

Avg. hagwon salary $2,200 /month
Pension $90/month
Severance $183/month (assuming you complete 1 year)
Housing $500 - paid by employer, but it's technically part of your salary
Airfare $100/month ($1200 over 12 months)


Total $3,073

I doubt most CDI instructors are clearing $6,000 a month. Keep in mind you also don't get any paid vacation time at CDI, nor national holidays.
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enns



Joined: 02 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many wage workers receive airfare and pension.
Maybe 1.7x the average hagwon.
I suppose you should shop around, like all chains, not every branch is great.
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Suwon23



Joined: 24 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW, the OP is talking about hourly pay, not salary (which, obviously, does pay housing and such). I'm pretty sure you would have to work your ass to a nub to cancel out the rent, airfare, pension, vacation, etc., and still make twice as much take-home pay as a salaried employee. It's easy to make more than us, but twice as much? You'd have to make like 55,000 an hour to do that, or work lots of hours.
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enns



Joined: 02 May 2006

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said, many CDI workers I know get pension and airfare and make about 1.7x more than your standard hagwon after rent. No severance though and the vacation time is unpaid. Benefits to both sides, all depends what your priorities are.
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DCJames



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's now come to the point that CDI is actually paying LESS than your average hogwon.

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SirFink



Joined: 05 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that Alan Watts?
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of friend recommends a goshiwon? The only value I can see in living in one would be the opportunites for practicing Korean, but there are easier ways.

Decent goshiwons go for 400,000+ in the Konkuk University area, which is about what you'd pay for a small place if you put up some key money, and got a decent one room, or even officetel.

I checked out some of the cheaper ones in that area, in the price range you mentioned, and I wouldn't live in one if you paid me.
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big_blue_21



Joined: 02 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirFink wrote:
Is that Alan Watts?


YES!!! Very Happy who's your guy by the way??? . . . cute cartoon . . .
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big_blue_21



Joined: 02 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samd wrote:
What kind of friend recommends a goshiwon? The only value I can see in living in one would be the opportunites for practicing Korean, but there are easier ways.

Decent goshiwons go for 400,000+ in the Konkuk University area, which is about what you'd pay for a small place if you put up some key money, and got a decent one room, or even officetel.


That's true--I've heard koshiwon prices have really shot up since I left. I was back this month on vacation but I didn't get exact prices.

I guess one advantage is not getting stuck in a year lease, but I think you can just pay (to get out of an apartment lease) a real estate agent a few hundred dollars to find someone else and that takes care of that . . . I guess, I also just couldn't stand being in an apartment by myself in a country where I had no friends--I got way too lonesome . . . now that I have good friends in Korea I probably wouldn't stay in a koshiwon . . . I also might negotiate a monthly rate at one of those motels near Sejong University for 500,000 or 600,000 . . . all the apartments I was shown were going for 600,000 or up, the ones I found decent for maybe 800,000 to a million--but maybe because I was shown in Chung Dahm . . . I did find a great place near Sejong for (I think?) 500,000 but the probablem was it was a sublet, which is illegal in Korea, so CDI wouldn't give me the key money (5 million) for it . . . Another problem is most decent apartments (like the ones I would stay in, officetels and such) require 10 million in key money . . . that was back in 2006 . . . CDI was only giving 5 million for that--hopefully they've upped it . . .

I do have a buddy who lives in, dang it, I don't know what they've called in Korean, but he translated it to me as "one-room apartment." It was cheap, like 250,000 or less, I doubt any key money was required, but I could ask . . . it actually seemed decent enough, but you're getting what you pay for--just one room (fairly good size) and a small bathroom with shower. I don't even remember there being a kitchen . . . it was near Konguk De (short for "dehakkyo" or "university," sort of how like we say "Michigan U"--though I don't know if I spelled Michigan right (all apologies to any Wolverines out there)--that's just for all you newbies out there to help) . . .
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little mixed girl



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

we will accept your apology, but it should be noted that we call it the "university of michigan".
"UM" or "Michigan" for short.
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