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Couple "friendly" cities?

 
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Big4Jerm3



Joined: 17 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Couple "friendly" cities? Reply with quote

So far I've heard from two recruiters telling me that such and such city's schools, i.e. Busan, do not like to hire teachers as couples. I assume that they are telling me this simply because they do not deal with schools in the Busan area. Are my assumptions correct? Thanks a lot.
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Couple "friendly" cities? Reply with quote

Big4Jerm3 wrote:
So far I've heard from two recruiters telling me that such and such city's schools, i.e. Busan, do not like to hire teachers as couples. I assume that they are telling me this simply because they do not deal with schools in the Busan area. Are my assumptions correct? Thanks a lot.


How old are you, and are you married? I ask this because it does have relevance.

Couples are a big risk for employment here. I've personally witnessed 3 couples pull the midnight run from my school in my couple of years here. Why didn't my school learn their lesson the first couple of times? Who knows, but schools should be leary of this situation, because if one of you is unhappy, then both of you leave. This is a BIG problem for the schools and the other teachers that have to cover for that situation until replacements are found.
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gojulie



Joined: 08 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bundang is pretty good. I know a few places that have hired couples and had no problems. My school had a married couple for a while as well. I am here with the hubby but we work at different schools.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Couple friendly' cities are directly poportional to the square of the distance from Seoul. Busan, however is different... your recruiter is trying to place you where he/she has an opening at the moment.
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cedarseoul



Joined: 16 Feb 2008
Location: nowon-gu

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Couple "friendly" cities? Reply with quote

esetters21 wrote:
Big4Jerm3 wrote:
So far I've heard from two recruiters telling me that such and such city's schools, i.e. Busan, do not like to hire teachers as couples. I assume that they are telling me this simply because they do not deal with schools in the Busan area. Are my assumptions correct? Thanks a lot.


How old are you, and are you married? I ask this because it does have relevance.

Couples are a big risk for employment here. I've personally witnessed 3 couples pull the midnight run from my school in my couple of years here. Why didn't my school learn their lesson the first couple of times? Who knows, but schools should be leary of this situation, because if one of you is unhappy, then both of you leave. This is a BIG problem for the schools and the other teachers that have to cover for that situation until replacements are found.


On the other hand, some schools like hiring couples because the built-in support structure helps some newbies to adjust more easily. Several of the schools I talked to before coming over here last summer were particularly interested because my wife and I were coming together. The school we ended up with (a POLY) has hired several couples and had considerable success with each.

So I think it depends on the school's / academic coordinator's personal philosophy - and, obviously, the quality and credentials of the couple...
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Couple "friendly" cities? Reply with quote

cedarseoul wrote:
esetters21 wrote:
Big4Jerm3 wrote:
So far I've heard from two recruiters telling me that such and such city's schools, i.e. Busan, do not like to hire teachers as couples. I assume that they are telling me this simply because they do not deal with schools in the Busan area. Are my assumptions correct? Thanks a lot.


How old are you, and are you married? I ask this because it does have relevance.

Couples are a big risk for employment here. I've personally witnessed 3 couples pull the midnight run from my school in my couple of years here. Why didn't my school learn their lesson the first couple of times? Who knows, but schools should be leary of this situation, because if one of you is unhappy, then both of you leave. This is a BIG problem for the schools and the other teachers that have to cover for that situation until replacements are found.


On the other hand, some schools like hiring couples because the built-in support structure helps some newbies to adjust more easily. Several of the schools I talked to before coming over here last summer were particularly interested because my wife and I were coming together. The school we ended up with (a POLY) has hired several couples and had considerable success with each.

So I think it depends on the school's / academic coordinator's personal philosophy - and, obviously, the quality and credentials of the couple...


Good point indeed. That is why I asked about age and marrital status. The two speak about the maturity level of the "couple". All of the couple runners that I mentioned were fresh out of university types that were not married.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In almost three years here I've see two couples pull 'runners'. I can't say whether or not age has a bearing.

Here's a challenge to potential M.A.s in sociology -
How would one measure the variables and set up a control?
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excitinghead



Joined: 18 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One reason some smaller schools especially don't want to hire couples is simply because they'd naturally want to take their holidays at the same time, and it would be a real hassle for the school to replace them while they're away. If that's their reason, then their reluctance is perfectly understandable.

Having said that, I've rejected one job because the director had a problem with my then-girlfriend now-wife living with me, so schools not liking couples can still be for one of any number of reasons.

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Eedoryeong



Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The city I'm in, Mokpo, is a very friendly place for foreigner couples. Also, because of the high international marriage rate down here (a lot of SE Asian women marrying Korean men) it also appears to be a very international couple-friendly area, at least I should say, more so than in crappy Seoul. The teacher couples I know who are working for the public schools all have very sweet apartments and generally good benefits to their jobs.
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Scouse Mouse



Joined: 07 Jan 2007
Location: Cloud #9

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a PS job. Problem solved!

They will put you in a married persons apt and have you work at seperate schools in the same city.
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