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Anyone have a teenager (non-Korean) in school here?
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ytuque



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Anyone have a teenager (non-Korean) in school here? Reply with quote

It looks like I will be getting a step-daughter just in time for next school year. What do you do for schooling, and how is that working out?
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gteacher



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are lots of options available, depending on your finances and where you are from.

International School - expensive, but usually good quality education
Hogwon Style international School - cheaper and hit or miss on education.
Home-schooling - depending on where you are from easy or difficult, You know who the teacher is Smile

Also there are other avenues that can be explored like private teacher etc.

Location is also important. If your in Seoul you have a lot more possibilities than someone located out in the country.

I am not sure if public school is an option for non-koreans, if that turns out being your best/only option let me know and I will look into it for you.
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ytuque



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in Taejeon, and I found an international school which charges about $24,000 USD per academic year. Since this is close to what I take home in a year teaching Englishee, I would like to find cheaper options. A 3rd rate education is not an option? Do you have children in school here?
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ytuque wrote:
I am in Taejeon, and I found an international school which charges about $24,000 USD per academic year. Since this is close to what I take home in a year teaching Englishee, I would like to find cheaper options. A 3rd rate education is not an option? Do you have children in school here?


Get a job at an international school. Most (not all) let your kid go free that way or at least offer you a discount.
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ytuque



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like working with children or animals.... especially children! It looks like something which needs to be investigated.
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gteacher



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ytuque wrote:
I am in Taejeon, and I found an international school which charges about $24,000 USD per academic year. Since this is close to what I take home in a year teaching Englishee, I would like to find cheaper options. A 3rd rate education is not an option? Do you have children in school here?


I have a son that is just about to start kindergarten. He has been in a preschool associated to the international school I am at and that is the only reason I can afford a decent quality education here.

Currently, Korea is ill-equiped to educated the youth of non-Koreans. Your best bet is home-schooling. Or look for a small hagwonish international school that would benifit from having a "Native English" speaking child and negotiate with them.


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Mr. Pink



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone have a teenager (non-Korean) in school here? Reply with quote

ytuque wrote:
It looks like I will be getting a step-daughter just in time for next school year. What do you do for schooling, and how is that working out?


Not to pry too much into your personal life, but if I had a non-Korean step-daughter, chances are the mother would be from a country that is English speaking, and thus able to also work in Korea.

Is your wife (or wife to be) able to work in Korea?

Is your wife able to get child support for said child?

Now if you married a female from another Asian country, I guess you will be the sole provider, in which case I suggest you might want to do Korean school + some home schooling, or work more so you can afford international school.

I bolded your first sentence as "looks like" shows you didn't expect this, and thus you are scrambling for a solution.
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nate1983



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gteacher wrote:


Currently, Korea is ill-equiped to educated the youth of non-Koreans. Your best bet is home-schooling. Or look for a small hagwonish international school that would benifit from having a "Native English" speaking child and negotiate with them.


Or you could do what immigrants in the US do and send them to the same school as the native kids.
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gteacher



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nate1983 wrote:
gteacher wrote:


Currently, Korea is ill-equiped to educated the youth of non-Koreans. Your best bet is home-schooling. Or look for a small hagwonish international school that would benifit from having a "Native English" speaking child and negotiate with them.


Or you could do what immigrants in the US do and send them to the same school as the native kids.


Most korean schools will not easily accept a non-korean student, nor do they have to by law. Especially at the middle school level where they would not be able to teach them anything due to a langauge barrier. Korean education is only a right for Korean citizens.

You forget that the US has a significant immigrant population that has a right to be educated. You however are in South Korea, a country with the lowest immigrant population in the world. Currently, there is no system in the public education system to teach non-Korean students Korean langauge. There is no plan in the next 3 months either to start a KSL program for the few students who cannot speak Korean.
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Paddycakes



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how much home-schooling would cost, assuming you have private tutors come in.

I have such an ill-feeling toward the public school system, whether it be in Canada or Korea, that home schooling does seem the only practical alternative...
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ytuque



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The future wife and step-daughter are not native speakers of English. I see this is going to be complicated! Sending the girl to a Korean school is out of the question. I worry about the social isolation with home schooling since there are so few foreign teenagers about.

It doesn't seem like many teachers have teenagers.
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gteacher



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homeschooling is likely to be your best option then. Depending on where you are from you can looking into the homeschooling regulations, assuming you will be trying to get your nationality for your future wife and step-child. If not try to find the regulations for the country that she is coming from. Many nations actually have strict regulations on homeschooling and it is not always as simple as people think.

Once you have figured out what you need to do, then start working on the how. You can most likely teach her in areas you feel qualified and her mother might be able to help her in other areas. Mathematics tutors are a dime a dozen in Korean, however finding one with English might prove challenging. Science will be your biggest challenge, as home schooling does not usually provide the hands-on experience that is expected in the west. As well, most of the things we can run out and grab at the market to use in an experiment are much more difficult to find here in Korea.


If you do go the homeschooling route and you need a hand getting it organized I'll be happy to pitch in with some advice. Prior to accepting my position I was also strongly considering home-schooling.


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rsmm0224



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care how much you "LOVE" each other... bringing a non-English and non-Korean teenager into this country is about the most socially irresponsible thing you can do to the poor kid. You need to really think about what you're about to do and how it will affect the lives others.

If you're serious about the marriage AND want a better life for the kid, maybe its time to go home and get a real job. 24k/yr is not much, even here, when you're supporting 3 people.
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brento1138



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. If you're not making tons of money here, why stay? You got a wife and child to look after... maybe best off just heading back home. Where education is pretty much free, and probably higher quality. Man, tough situation to be in I suppose. But think of that teenager first...
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gteacher wrote:

Most korean schools will not easily accept a non-korean student, nor do they have to by law. Especially at the middle school level where they would not be able to teach them anything due to a langauge barrier. Korean education is only a right for Korean citizens.

You forget that the US has a significant immigrant population that has a right to be educated. You however are in South Korea, a country with the lowest immigrant population in the world. Currently, there is no system in the public education system to teach non-Korean students Korean langauge. There is no plan in the next 3 months either to start a KSL program for the few students who cannot speak Korean.


Exactly. I can't believe you (the person gteacher responded to) actually thought that Korea had the same setup as the US. That's almost (almost) adorable in its naivete. The US is a nation of immigrants with laws in place to make sure non-English speakers get support while assimilating to their new language. Korea is a nation that's ravenously xenophobic and makes it so it's next to impossible for someone to immigrate here and actually become a citizen. Two very different situations.


To the OP: I was under the impression your wife and teen were either native English speakers or spoke it at an advanced level. I'd have to agree with the other posters and say that it's verging on neglect/abuse to bring a non-native, non-Korean teen into this nation. I shudder to think of the life that poor kid is going to lead here.
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