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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:49 am    Post subject: BBC is crap Reply with quote

I'm watching the BBC and they are talking about the high prices of grain. And what do you know, the camera goes to a shot of a giant ethanol factory with a HUGE US flag painted on it.

Because the US has been increasing its production of biofuels, to reduce their dependency on fossil fuels, they are harming the world's food supply, increasing costs making it harder for the rest of the world to eat.

Don't you just love "fair and unbiased" news coverage.
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Sleepy in Seoul



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, why are you watching it then? You could always watch Fox.
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Thwartley



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject: Re: BBC is crap Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
I'm watching the BBC and they are talking about the high prices of grain. And what do you know, the camera goes to a shot of a giant ethanol factory with a HUGE US flag painted on it.

Because the US has been increasing its production of biofuels, to reduce their dependency on fossil fuels, they are harming the world's food supply, increasing costs making it harder for the rest of the world to eat.

Don't you just love "fair and unbiased" news coverage.


Do you disagree with the claim? If so, refute it. If not, how is the report biased?
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBC is still smarting from the whole Dr Kelly suicide/WMD thing. Some heads rolled at the BBC because of it and now they've had it in for the government and any of it's Alllies.

Many BBC journalists have come out and spoken about how dangerous and wrong the US and British relationship is. The BBC is supposed to be unbiased but when the US media is feeding shit daily to the American people, the British government would love this to be the case in Britain but they ain't going to get it.

You know what, I'm one hundred percent on their (BBC) side.
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eamo



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBC employees pride themselves on the quality and impartiality of their work........but who knows what goes on at the top level. Never trust one news source.


However, if I was pushed to name a news source that I would trust, it would be the BBC. They have a proud history of being trustworthy. The day when the BBC can't be trusted would be a sad day for the world. But, hey. I'm always cynical.
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kabrams



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: BBC is crap Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
I'm watching the BBC and they are talking about the high prices of grain. And what do you know, the camera goes to a shot of a giant ethanol factory with a HUGE US flag painted on it.

Because the US has been increasing its production of biofuels, to reduce their dependency on fossil fuels, they are harming the world's food supply, increasing costs making it harder for the rest of the world to eat.

Don't you just love "fair and unbiased" news coverage.


The BBC is right.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't you just love "fair and unbiased" news coverage.


Well, it would be nice to get it, but don't plan on getting it from the BBC. It's better than some but as bad as most. I wish I could find the editorial from a couple of years back where some journalist complained about the anti-American bias and the head of BBC agreed it was true. Didn't change much, though.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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Don't you just love "fair and unbiased" news coverage.


Well, it would be nice to get it, but don't plan on getting it from the BBC. It's better than some but as bad as most. I wish I could find the editorial from a couple of years back where some journalist complained about the anti-American bias and the head of BBC agreed it was true. Didn't change much, though.


I think most Americans know the BBC is biased against America. And what the Iraq War has to do with needless condescending to people in Mississippi post-Katrina escapes me.

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The BBC is right


No, its not. The rising commodity costs are barely influenced by biofuel production. The problem is the rising price of rice in Asia, the transition of Plains farmers away from grain production (a long-time coming before biofuels), and the fall of the dollar, which hurts the purchasing power of food-importing developing nations whose currencies are tied to the dollar.
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swigs



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.biased-bbc.blogspot.com/

There is no such thing as an unbiased news source, because people making news just happen to have opinions.

I find news.google.com to be a cool way to look at the news, for any given story they have hundreds of news links from across the world that you can read. That way you never find yourself in the habit of reading from just one source. Although most of the stories are directly derived from the AP wire.
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Caledonian Craig



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not great by ANY stretch of the imagination- but in terms of a comparitive perspective...a right to reply, (relatively) unbiased coverage of elections, more devolved powers for the regions in terms of programme content, and subject coverage... then not bad. But weighed against industry double standards, 'creative' accounting and shite satuarday evening telly, well I think they're pish. But then there isn't one unifying thread that binds the BBC- there will be shows which contradict and disagree with other BBC shows, and I suppose that's a good thing, no?

PS as for 'reeling' over the WMD/Dr Kelly thing, well I haven't felt it, and I moved back to the UK from Korean in late 2005
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Caledonian Craig



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not great by ANY stretch of the imagination- but in terms of a comparitive perspective...a right to reply, (relatively) unbiased coverage of elections, more devolved powers for the regions in terms of programme content, and subject coverage... then not bad. But weighed against industry double standards, 'creative' accounting and shite satuarday evening telly, well I think they're pish. But then there isn't one unifying thread that binds the BBC- there will be shows which contradict and disagree with other BBC shows, and I suppose that's a good thing, no?

PS as for 'reeling' over the WMD/Dr Kelly thing, well I haven't felt it, and I moved back to the UK from Korea in late 2005
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ED209



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still lamenting over John Craven's Newsround.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PS as for 'reeling' over the WMD/Dr Kelly thing, well I haven't felt it, and I moved back to the UK from Korea in late 2005


After Gavyn Davies (BBC Chairman ) resigned in 2004 with the Dr Kelly saga you could sense that the political fingers were trying to infiltrate the BBC. The 'sexing up' which was found to be true was something that still baffles me. A weapons expert that eventually 'died' really stinks of something.

In the modern day there's plenty of countries that have a media outlet that it very beneficial to them. Italy and America being a couple of examples. The BBC has always tried to be unbiased but something like the Iraq war is very divisive and emotive especially when it was so wrong. Why should the BBC chairman resign and stinking Blair carries on, and he gets the apology. Politics nowadays stinks. I would hope the BBC carries on with it's coverage without interference.

But then again Britain is a sinking country, we're finished.

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I'm still lamenting over John Craven's Newsround.


How about if we get the 'nice' Konnie Huq to present it?
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, the US using grain and corn for Biofuels is the number 1 reason that food/grain prices are going up all over the world?

Because, if you were watching that BBC segment, you would think so.

In my opinion, after showing a graph of food prices going up, I would next show a graph showing the global population and it's rise. Then I could compare the world's total food supply against that population and show a relationship.

Not the BBC. They immediately pan to a shot of a US refinery that just happens to have a giant US flag painted on it.

Only a small percentage of grain is used for Biofuels in the US.

The US is an easy out for media outlets. IF something is wrong with the world, they can just point a finger at the US and say "XXX that the US is doing is at fault." They do it because people will WATCH and it boosts ratings.

Lets be real here, BBC, CNN, Foxnews, etc... They don't care about stories or being objective. They care about sponsors, ratings, and having the largest audience to sell their advertising.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBC doesn't have sponsors. It doesn't have advertising. It doesn't need to please anyone, that's why people pay a tv licence for them. It's part public funded. It is nothing like FOX and CNN.

All media outlets get a picture that they want. It's all about photoshoots and soundbites. Anything else is immaterial.
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