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Seoul or Pusan
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Which city would you prefer to live in?
Seoul
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Pusan
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gannawdm



Joined: 25 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:59 pm    Post subject: Seoul or Pusan Reply with quote

Hi,

I am debating whether to live in Seoul or Pusan. Since I have lived on the coast my whole life, it would make my stay here much less stressful if I lived by the beach. I also want to live in a big city with easily accessible movie theaters, parks, bars, shopping areas, restaurants, etc. I also wonder if one city is more expensive than the other. Also, are the attitudes of people in Seoul and Pusan very different (more or less conservative)?

What are the advantages and disadvantages of living in Seoul and Pusan. Which city would you recommend?

davidg
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in both cities.

Pusan has better weather, and the beach.

Seoul is significantly less conservative. Busan is about as conservative and as Korean as you can imagine.. meaning fierce nationalistic and regional pride to the extreme.

I prefer Seoul.
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow tb.

I've personally never found that.

I'd go for pusan
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beach and really tight foreigner community.
(haven't experienced tb's Busan but....)
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far from seoul


Seoul
+ can get virtually anything...considered the "culture capital" of Korea ( that HAS to stand for SOMETHING)
- sorry folks, can't STAND itaewon. Too many wackos, too much testosterone.
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BTM



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Back in the saddle.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lived in Busan for about 3 years. Sobered up for about 15 minutes of that. (well, not really, but you know what I'm sayin')

They both suck in some ways, rock in others. It's all about the job and the people you hang with though - if you make enough money and have enough freetime, anywhere is good.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My year in Busan was in Deokchongdong which has the largest dog market in Korea.. it was about 1km of all dogs butchered up and in cages.. and the market extended from the streets as well.. having split shifts, I either or walked or bussed through the 1 km in length dog market a minimum of 4 times a day.. (my hogwan and apartment were on opposite sides of the dog market)..

SO.. as you can imagine.. living and working in that neighorhood.. my day-to-day reality of BUSAN was REALLY weird!! That was the only 'normal' thing about that neighborhood and the people living there.

The only dogs I see in Seoul are on leashes being walked by over enthusiastic pet owners.. (although I've heard of a few other people spotting a caged dog randomly here and there in Seoul).. but nothing is like 1km of 100s of dogs for as far as the eye can see if you stand in the right spot..

(That was 1996-1997 in Busan).

Incidently, the Pusan people shove, push, stand in front of the exit of elevators and subways like a football lineup to break through the others waiting on the other side). Same event every single time everywhere in Busan.. almost never experience that anywhere near on the same level in Seoul.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pusan is nice for a visit, but it is a large Korean city (though it does have the PIFF- true enough). Anyway, Seoul is much more multi-cultural with lots of things to do. That's why it is my drug of choice.

Harpeau
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whatthefunk



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Dont have a clue

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered Pohang?
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pusan is closer to Japan if you need to do a sudden exit or visa run Very Happy
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting replies..... Have lived in Seoul for a year, 96' 97' and have visited Busan a couple of times, and now living in what everbody considers the backwater of Korea, I often think I should make a move to one of these cities, or it is explained to me that I should. The only reason to move would be, in my estimate, to have a larger expat circle and more international amenities, both of which I have grown so used to not having, I learnt to go it alone very well within the local surrounding, that when faced with fresh new English teacher faces to meet and international groceries to be bought, I don't do either. I think I am being that old weird English teacher that never wanted to leave the country and wont.
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justaskdan



Joined: 28 Apr 2003
Location: Me in Pohang - Oct 20th

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why, Pohang of course.
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Austin



Joined: 23 May 2003
Location: In the kitchen

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:40 pm    Post subject: Park Jung Hee Reply with quote

Tiger Beer is right about the fierce regionalism and conservative bent in Pusan compared to Seoul. You can thank Park Jung Hee, his eighteen years as the supreme dictator of South Korea (as he came from that province), and the Saemuel Movement for the attitudes that persist to this day in Pusan.

The choice is yours, but Seoul offers a completely different political and social feel than Pusan. However, if you usually operate oblivious to many things that are happening around you and insulate yourself with other foriegners, like so many others here, the Korean people will probably have very little impact on your stay.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khyber wrote:
sorry folks, can't STAND itaewon. Too many wackos, too much testosterone.


Don't be sorry, but know that Itaewon is not Seoul. Itaewon is Itaewon.
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

true butt...but EVERY time i visit my friends INSIST on taking me there. EVEN THOUGH they know i hate it.
They're starting to really piss me off!
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waggo



Joined: 18 May 2003
Location: pusan baby!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you still here Butterfly.....dont tell me that your still in the English teaching game?...Not after your "Get out of it while you still can speech"
Nobody is that big a hippo are they?
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Cthulhu



Joined: 02 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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true butt...but EVERY time i visit my friends INSIST on taking me there. EVEN THOUGH they know i hate it.
They're starting to really piss me off!


As a non-Seoulite I've experienced that too. I think a lot of foreigners like Itaewon (even as a guilty pleasure) because it is not Korea (perhaps an anti-Korea), and provides them with a break from the Korean experience. Unfortunately some people seem to need that break 24/7.

In spite of that I am starting to warm to Seoul in general even as I'm heading out of here (I've had to stay there a lot recently). It's generally cleaner and more modern and it sure has a lot more to do than Busan. Also, it isn't culturally dead like it is here down south. I used to be totally pro-Busan because of size and cheaper prices and a tighter expat commmunity, but if I ever return to Korea I might consider Seoul next time... Wink
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