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maddog



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: My school is gonna fold Reply with quote

We started a new semester today and I think I'll be hitting the job market before it's over. Much of the material has been produced by the school (it's a fairly large chain) and it stinks.

We were given the material late on Friday, so today has been my first chance to go over it. In one book, I've found mistakes in EVERY chapter. These aren't little mistakes either. They're great big obvious ones. There are run-on sentences and fragments all over the place. There are commas where the shouldn't be commas, and vice versa. There's a bunch of spelling mistakes and a load of caplitalization errors.

What's really annoying is that this has happened before. I (and the students) found a bunch of errors in an iBT speaking book. I emailed the head office twice and never got a relpy. That wasn't so bad because it was a once-a-week class with three students. This time, it's affecting about half of my classes.

Additionally, I have to teach a ridiculously easy book to my fairly-high-level students. They account for 1/4 of my students. So, 75% of my students will be complaining about shite material by the end of the week.

MD
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use it to your advantage. Tell a class which sentence to look at and have them race to the board to write the correction.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Complaining only causes stress, in all parties involved. A good teacher improvises with what's given to them.
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maddog



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
Complaining only causes stress, in all parties involved. A good teacher improvises with what's given to them.


A good teacher can't cover up the fact that the books are full of mistakes. These are mistakes that would've been identified by any decent word-processing software. I am hardly overoworked these days, so they could've had me proof-read the material as part of my job description. I'm sure I would've moaned at the time, but I'd rather perform a few extra duties than explain to my students that the school couldn't be bothered to have their material proof-read.

Regardless of proof-reading and word-processing issues, some of the mistakes are utterly shocking. Here are some examples:

People even created sports played with animals one sport is polo.

The dog, humans know today comes from the wolf.

Humans have changed dogs each serving a different purpose.

Mars is close to earth and is easy to see in the night sky.

Through study of the planet scientists, know there is no air or water.

It weighed eight pounds, also it was slow and expensive.

She was born in Mexico in 1907 her father was German and her mother a native American.

The story is about a girl from Kansa named dorothy.

In fact many different versions have been made the first was 1914.

The guitar is found in some many difficult styles, because it can make the different sounds.

Soon our prints took on a different purpose that of identifying a person.


That's a fraction of what I've found so far.

MD
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maddog wrote:
matthews_world wrote:
Complaining only causes stress, in all parties involved. A good teacher improvises with what's given to them.


A good teacher can't cover up the fact that the books are full of mistakes. These are mistakes that would've been identified by any decent word-processing software. I am hardly overoworked these days, so they could've had me proof-read the material as part of my job description. I'm sure I would've moaned at the time, but I'd rather perform a few extra duties than explain to my students that the school couldn't be bothered to have their material proof-read.

Regardless of proof-reading and word-processing issues, some of the mistakes are utterly shocking. Here are some examples:

People even created sports played with animals one sport is polo.

The dog, humans know today comes from the wolf.

Humans have changed dogs each serving a different purpose.

Mars is close to earth and is easy to see in the night sky.

Through study of the planet scientists, know there is no air or water.

It weighed eight pounds, also it was slow and expensive.

She was born in Mexico in 1907 her father was German and her mother a native American.

The story is about a girl from Kansa named dorothy.

In fact many different versions have been made the first was 1914.

The guitar is found in some many difficult styles, because it can make the different sounds.

Soon our prints took on a different purpose that of identifying a person.


That's a fraction of what I've found so far.

MD


Those sound like they belong on a Tshirt.
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squexx



Joined: 24 Mar 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get used to it! The way the economy is going, lots of hakwans are going to close in the near future.
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Cornfed



Joined: 14 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the sentence quotes. I just spent 15 minutes of otherwise dead time explaining the mistakes to a class.
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Tarkaan



Joined: 09 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try explaining who Bob Marley is due to a misprint in your copy of A Christmas Carol XD.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MD, did you write the books?

Quote:
I am hardly overoworked these days
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skeeterses



Joined: 25 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing about the ESL Industry in Korea that is quite pervasive is the tendency for schools to write their own English books to save a few bucks. And all too often, its Koreans with little English proficiency writing these things. And so the results are books with a few repetitive phrases and no story line whatsoever.

It is books that have virtually no material in them. And to teach from them is an intellectual insult for both the students and the teachers.
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maddog



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
MD, did you write the books?

Quote:
I am hardly overoworked these days


That's called a typo. This is an internet messege board, not a classroom.

MD
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That dog doesn't hunt, I'm afraid. Rolling Eyes
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maddog



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
That dog doesn't hunt, I'm afraid. Rolling Eyes


WTF is your problem? You need to get yourself a girlfriend. Either that or just kill yourself.

MD
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RyanInKorea



Joined: 17 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spliff is a d-bag and a horrible troll. Don't acknowledge his existence and he should go away.

Sucks about the sheite material. Maybe you could just teach the minimum and then go into something that interests you. How old are they? My older students enjoy music, history, philosophy, the world, etc. Whatever interests the class and you share.

Ryan
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stevieg4ever



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Location: London, England

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You read posts like this and then you understand fully why these people can't speak a word of English between them. They have blatantly used bablefish.


Apologists let me save some of your precious time which could thus be spent on cross-cultural exchanges:

"Oh really, you have met all 48 million people in this country to deduce this? These people were involved in a civil war not long ago which caused mass poverty and starvation. Why should they fork out cash to pay for books retaining to your culture? Haven't they got enough to care about without Joe Canada moaning in their face about a book. The problem isn't Korea / your hagwon / your boss [select as appropriate] its you"
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