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Do Koreans generally play soccer within the rules?

 
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cisco kid



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: Outlaws had us pinned down at the fort

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: Do Koreans generally play soccer within the rules? Reply with quote

I've never played soccer, but I'm apparently on the team because one of the guys ripped a ligament in his knee and I'm the only able bodied male in the office that is in good enough shape to play. My company has eight or nine teams, so my team ordered me a uniform today and wants me to come up to speed on rules and how to play, etc.

So, before I spend a few days reading and trying to memorize soccer rules (during working hours, of course) - what should I know about the psychology of the Korean soccer player? Any advice? Do they generally play fair?

Thanks in advance all you soccer gurus. Razz
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do play fair, but they don't really think when they play. They'll run all day but don't really pass to each other.

I advise you to stick back in defence, right back is probably the least hassle. When they pass the ball to you. Put your foot on it and then pass it to the nearest person on your team. When you don't have the ball, just hover around the nearest player from their team, so technically you're 'marking' him. Don't dive in. You're fit so just keep up with them without diving in. Shepherd them around but not in the direction of your goal.
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cisco kid



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help brother DV. I've been watching youtube videos about the basics. Any good sites that anyone can recommend would be of great help to me.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, you must the be first guy I've heard of who has no idea how to play footbal (soccer).

Ye, they will play within the rules..and from what you've said, there should be a ref too, so they'll be enforced. Dome's advice is solid... but as right back...if you have the ball and you don't have a CLEAR pass to one of your teamies...just hoof the ball downfield.. (this is your "when in doubt" move). A missed pass which is intercepted is about the worst thing that can happen Smile

Good luck and most of all...have fun! Smile
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A piece of advice from another poster who has absolutely no idea how to play soccer:

I've watched Koreans play jok-koo almost every day for 5 years. Only once have I seen ANYONE get upset/angry. From what I can tell, Koreans play for fun, entertainment and exercise. Leave your temper and bad sportsmanship at home.
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the scores delicately poised at 0-0. The time is entering the 89th minute and your team is on the attack, break from your right back position and drift into the middle of the opposition's penalty area at which point the left midfielder will send in a peach of cross around about head height to you. You gracefully execute an overhead bicycle kick:



At which point the ball smashes off the underside of the crossbar and into the net. The final whistle goes. The joy and elation that can be felt from team mates as they hold you aloft their shoulders and chant your name.



I hope you'll be able to handle the limelight. Wink

Ditto ya-ta boys comment, they, IMO, play with a very good spirit and play very fairly, this should be reciprocated by you.


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gwhitey09



Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play soccer every week against korean teams. They may all look like old men. The ones I play against can run all day and all night.
The most important thing I would say relates to tackling. If I even make slight physical contact with them, they whine and moan. Just don't touch them. They don't like to use their bodies.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The school staff had a footy game and invited an american esl teache I used to know here to join them.

However after 90 minutes they still had not passed the ball to him once, and he left the field humiliated.

He left korea soon after. Laughing
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the ireland



Joined: 11 May 2008
Location: korea

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beware of the offside rule, i play soccer with koreans, we don't have a ref but we call offside ourselves, it's all done with honesty.

I found it easy to settle into the game, the language thing is not a problem, my tae kwon do master is the only one who speaks english although the others just speak korean to me and laugh when i utter one korean word....usually "Nae" just to pretend like i have a clue what the hell they are talking about

as for the no physical thing, it's fun to be physical, i don't know if they give free kicks against you if you're a bit rough, i have kicked loads of them, they get a bit annoyed when you kick them in the shin, but they toughened up and started to give it back after a while.....then again i had to be quite careful cos i was playing with and against tae kwon do masters.
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cisco kid



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ireland wrote:
beware of the offside rule, i play soccer with koreans, we don't have a ref but we call offside ourselves, it's all done with honesty.

I found it easy to settle into the game, the language thing is not a problem, my tae kwon do master is the only one who speaks english although the others just speak korean to me and laugh when i utter one korean word....usually "Nae" just to pretend like i have a clue what the hell they are talking about

as for the no physical thing, it's fun to be physical, i don't know if they give free kicks against you if you're a bit rough, i have kicked loads of them, they get a bit annoyed when you kick them in the shin, but they toughened up and started to give it back after a while.....then again i had to be quite careful cos i was playing with and against tae kwon do masters.



Thanks for the advice - did some searching and found some good video on youtube describing the offsides rule and 2 players between you and the ball, etc. I think I understand it now.

There are a few really good players - one thing I have to point out is that the guys I work with are all engineers, so they weren't all star athletes at uni because they spent most of their time studying to get into the top three or four schools in Korea. But there are a few really good players - they were all pointed out to me the other day....so it's not like I'm dealing with pros - it's supposed to be friendly play...


I can deal with the ball not being passed to me as well, I don't really want to be there in the first place, so as long as I suit up and run around a bit, if I ever get the ball - I'll just do what you guys advised.

Thanks again
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Rob'sdad



Joined: 12 May 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I played on the teachers team at two schools. Each disputed call was solved by a shouting match or one of the older teachers would yell shut up and play.

At half time it was "smoke 'em if you got 'em."
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Binch Lover



Joined: 25 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
A piece of advice from another poster who has absolutely no idea how to play soccer:

I've watched Koreans play jok-koo almost every day for 5 years. Only once have I seen ANYONE get upset/angry. From what I can tell, Koreans play for fun, entertainment and exercise. Leave your temper and bad sportsmanship at home.


Not sure what bad advice he was talking about. It all seems good to me, apart from what Ya-ta said.

Assuming you're right footed, right back might be the least hassle. As DV said, just shepherd your guy towards the sideline and make him pass. Don't try and tackle too much cos Korean soccer is basically non-contact. If they pass you the ball try and kick it up the sideline to your right winger. It's the easiest and most risk free pass.

Don't worry too much about offside. Look at who is farthest back on your team (other than the keeper) and try not to be behind him.

With regard to Ya-ta's second point, I respectfully disagree. The guys in the park usually play in good spirit, but better players don't. I've played against a few teams with semi-pros and some of it is disgraceful. The obvious bias from the ref. The screaming whenever you touch another player. The cheating and double standards are horrible. I've even seen one guy punch another for what was a fair tackle just because it was a bit rougher than he's used to.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another reason you don't have much slide tackling is the field. Those sandy, gravelly road rash factories. I did it once or twice before adapting. Crying or Very sad Other than that, I stuck to my usually aggressive defensive play... minus my most dangerous tactic of course. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

What another poster said about shepherding is right on. But if you can't, just attack! Don't worry about being "schooled" by the dribbler; it is often enough to disrupt his rhythm. You shepherd to buy time for your teammates to get in better position. You attack mainly to force him into making a mistake, like a bad pass or something.

What I do is the shepherding bit until I feel my teammates are set up, then I make my move.
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cisco kid



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xI4JleEhCLE&NR=1


Those exercises seem like a good place to start. I need to learn how to handle the ball...

Can anyone list the most important exercises to learn ball handling?
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the ireland



Joined: 11 May 2008
Location: korea

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you handle the ball it's a free kick, unless your the keeper Laughing Laughing

seriously don't worry about those skills to control the ball, just kick it ahead of you and run after it, after a while it will get a bit easier.....i really have never met anyone who doesn't know anything about soccer.....you should try gaelic football or rugby next!!
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