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dalpengi
Joined: 08 Dec 2006
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 Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: Why do Koreans migrate to NZ? |
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This is a question I just don't get.
I make, after a master degree, around 20% above the average, quite beyond reach of 50% of the migrants.
Yet I live in a drafty house build by Neanderthals that allows heat to escape in nanoseconds and the local u25 find that the highlight of their weekend is puking all over my letterbox.
And then, on top of relative unemployment there is this horrible disconnection from the rest world.
I don't get it. |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:25 am Post subject: |
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I would say most koreans the go to NZ would make above average incomes, while it is easy to work in new zealand emigrating is a different matter.
I see your point about the bad construction in NZ but have you seen a korean apartment,the only reason they are warm in winter is the massive amount of heating they have, the concrete walls, a beehive will always be warmer than a single bee house (couldn't think of a better analogy). The constrution is terrible.
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| the local u25 find that the highlight of their weekend is puking all over my letterbox. |
which is worse the under 25 in NZ or the over 35 in korea.
but over all i think most move because of the clean air, lack of stress (parents and children (children esp)). A NZ passport for the kids have to be an advantage as well |
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dalpengi
Joined: 08 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| blackjack wrote: |
| I would say most koreans the go to NZ would make above average incomes, while it is easy to work in new zealand emigrating is a different matter. |
Cheers for your comments blackjack but according to statistics NZ Koreans in NZ make significantly less than average. As for the ease of work, it is there if you ant to work 5hrs a week (and than nothing after hat).
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I see your point about the bad construction in NZ but have you seen a korean apartment,the only reason they are warm in winter is the massive amount of heating they have, the concrete walls, a beehive will always be warmer than a single bee house (couldn't think of a better analogy). The constrution is terrible.
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again, a fair comment but at the end of the day a korean is warmer in Korea than i NZ.
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| the local u25 find that the highlight of their weekend is puking all over my letterbox. |
which is worse the under 25 in NZ or the over 35 in korea.
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Another good point. however, perhaps I shouldn't focused on the violance associated with drinking in NZ.
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but over all i think most move because of the clean air, lack of stress (parents and children (children esp)). A NZ passport for the kids have to be an advantage as well
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I don't know about other cities, but Christchurch is in the top 10% most polluted cities in the developed world.
As for lack of stress, try feeding a family with two kids on $25,000 a year. |
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Imrahil
Joined: 04 Feb 2008
Location: On the other side of the world.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| Has to be for the sheep, right? |
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dirty_scraps83
Joined: 02 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: |
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because all the advertisements say that NZ is a crime-free, unspoilt paradise...
...and then they move to South Auckland.
Beats me. |
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Stormy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Here & there
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| dalpengi wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
| I would say most koreans the go to NZ would make above average incomes, while it is easy to work in new zealand emigrating is a different matter. |
Cheers for your comments blackjack but according to statistics NZ Koreans in NZ make significantly less than average. As for the ease of work, it is there if you ant to work 5hrs a week (and than nothing after hat).
| blackjack wrote: |
I see your point about the bad construction in NZ but have you seen a korean apartment,the only reason they are warm in winter is the massive amount of heating they have, the concrete walls, a beehive will always be warmer than a single bee house (couldn't think of a better analogy). The constrution is terrible.
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again, a fair comment but at the end of the day a korean is warmer in Korea than i NZ.
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| the local u25 find that the highlight of their weekend is puking all over my letterbox. |
which is worse the under 25 in NZ or the over 35 in korea.
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Another good point. however, perhaps I shouldn't focused on the violance associated with drinking in NZ.
| blackjack wrote: |
but over all i think most move because of the clean air, lack of stress (parents and children (children esp)). A NZ passport for the kids have to be an advantage as well
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I don't know about other cities, but Christchurch is in the top 10% most polluted cities in the developed world.
As for lack of stress, try feeding a family with two kids on $25,000 a year. |
It would seem then that the real mystery here is why aren't all the Kiwis emigrating to pretty much any country that isn't NZ? |
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xtchr
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Maybe some of them don't do any research, their geography is poor and they think it is part of the USA or Europe. - Only half joking.
NZ houses are freezing, ridiculously so, but they won't know that till they get there, by which time it's too late.
The info from statistics NZ - well I'm assuming most Koreans who go are students, so therefore their income is low, and that might skew the total figures downward, perhaps.
All I know is that I'm going back in two and a half months and I can't wait for fresh air, blue skies, seeing animals in the paddocks, but mostly I'm looking forward to Jimmy's pies. |
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dalpengi
Joined: 08 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| Stormy wrote: |
| dalpengi wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
| I would say most koreans the go to NZ would make above average incomes, while it is easy to work in new zealand emigrating is a different matter. |
Cheers for your comments blackjack but according to statistics NZ Koreans in NZ make significantly less than average. As for the ease of work, it is there if you ant to work 5hrs a week (and than nothing after hat).
| blackjack wrote: |
I see your point about the bad construction in NZ but have you seen a korean apartment,the only reason they are warm in winter is the massive amount of heating they have, the concrete walls, a beehive will always be warmer than a single bee house (couldn't think of a better analogy). The constrution is terrible.
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again, a fair comment but at the end of the day a korean is warmer in Korea than i NZ.
| blackjack wrote: |
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| the local u25 find that the highlight of their weekend is puking all over my letterbox. |
which is worse the under 25 in NZ or the over 35 in korea.
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Another good point. however, perhaps I shouldn't focused on the violance associated with drinking in NZ.
| blackjack wrote: |
but over all i think most move because of the clean air, lack of stress (parents and children (children esp)). A NZ passport for the kids have to be an advantage as well
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I don't know about other cities, but Christchurch is in the top 10% most polluted cities in the developed world.
As for lack of stress, try feeding a family with two kids on $25,000 a year. |
It would seem then that the real mystery here is why aren't all the Kiwis emigrating to pretty much any country that isn't NZ? |
Oh, no mystery. 60% of NZ passport holders are outside of NZ. |
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southern boy
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:21 am Post subject: |
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I am looking to foward to return the favour for some of the treatments they given me here  .
There's a korean church next to the Otago language center at the Otago university, they dont welcome anybody who arent koreans. During the busy exam periods these gooks just hog onto the computers for hours messaging their friends on cyworld and navers inside the university library when there are alot of vacant computers in other buildings, sometimes when the IT supervisor told them minimised their time they just give this dum innocent of "I dont know" look. ... |
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southern boy
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:21 am Post subject: |
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I am looking to foward to return the favour for some of the treatments they given me here .
There's a korean church next to the Otago language center at the Otago university, they dont welcome anybody who arent koreans. During the busy exam periods these gooks just hog onto the computers for hours messaging their friends on cyworld and navers inside the university library when there are alot of vacant computers in other buildings, sometimes when the IT supervisor told them minimised their time they just give this dum innocent of "I dont know" look. ... |
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dirty_scraps83
Joined: 02 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| in all honesty, NZs not that bad really and money's getting tight all over as fuel prices go up for everybody throughout the world. People like a good whinge and a moan. Get Pink Batts or something. Insulate your house instead of moaning it was built by Neanderthals. As for the puke, are you seriously comparing Korea to NZ in that respect? You're taking the piss aren't you? |
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Stormy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Here & there
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| dalpengi wrote: |
Oh, no mystery. 60% of NZ passport holders are outside of NZ. |
Seriously?! Geeze that's surprisingly high. I didn't think NZ was that bad a place to live. |
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dirty_scraps83
Joined: 02 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| It's not some people just whinge to the point of ridiculousness. |
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Yesterday
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| Stormy wrote: |
| dalpengi wrote: |
Oh, no mystery. 60% of NZ passport holders are outside of NZ. |
Seriously?! Geeze that's surprisingly high. I didn't think NZ was that bad a place to live. |
Seriously - and half of that 60% of NZ's living outside NZ are living in Australia - claiming unemployments hand-outs from the Australian government... |
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Sleepy in Seoul
Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:10 am Post subject: |
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For all those of you who are missing NZ, here are a few snaps I took almost 2 weeks ago. It was snowing in Tekapo, Queenstown and Chch.
On the way to Te Anau...
Heading up to Queenstown...
Tekapo on Sunday morning, 8th of June...
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