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behindtheveil



Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Location: Gimpo

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Paying on dates Reply with quote

OK what's exactly the general rule on paying for dates. If I (a man) take a Korean girl out I'm assuming it's expected that i pay for the first date. After that what? At what point do things become more fair? I'd like to here everyone's personal experience. And maybe girls that have dated Korean guys what have they done?
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Paying on dates Reply with quote

behindtheveil wrote:
OK what's exactly the general rule on paying for dates. If I (a man) take a Korean girl out I'm assuming it's expected that i pay for the first date. After that what? At what point do things become more fair? I'd like to here everyone's personal experience. And maybe girls that have dated Korean guys what have they done?


Korea is cheap.. If you like her pay for it. Enjoy the local food you get a lot its not really expensive.. Or I should say its a lot cheaper than back in the states. If she is younger than you also realize she probably doesnt have a high paying job and you make a ton more than her. But that just depends can be very different to each situation.
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mikowee



Joined: 03 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to pay on the first date with my gf, but she would have none of it. I've paid a few times since then, but it's been mostly on her. Just as well, since she makes a lot more money than I do.

Just pay for the first date, then use your judgement to gauge what's fair the rest of the way. Even if your date has money to toss around, at least reach for your wallet.
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TiGrBaLm



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: Hubcap of Asia

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've learned that, if they pay for you, it most certainly means that they do not want to see you again.

I've had too many of those experiences and have pretty much given up on women here.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've paid the last few times I've been on dates, but they were students and have next to zero cash. When I went out with a pharmacist we split it. Depends on who has the most money in my opinion, or otherwise choose somewhere where she/he can afford to split it. I'd rather go somewhere nice and pay.
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.O.W. (Depends On Woman)

Generally, you do a little negotiation dance with the lady involved. I usually pick up the first (or more expensive) cost, and then let her get the next one. Most women are fine with that arrangement. I avoid women who expect you to pay for everything, but its up to you.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a chick.

In the States, men always paid for every day till we reached "exclusive" status. Then, usually was back and forthing. One guy, however, paid for everything. Everything. All of the time, including vacations and the like. (I was also 10 years younger than him and a public school teacher, which may have had something to do with it.)

I have gone on many dates in Korea but only "exclusively" dated one man. We mostly take turns, too. He's a student. Of course, all entertaining is done at my place, which jacks up his time factor considerably (since we live about an hour and 20 mins apart).

But a man should ALWAYS pay for ALL of the first date. I prefer they do so until we're exclusive, obviously.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not Korean, and I may not be typical, but I don't like the shelling-out to be one-sided, even on the first date. It's nice for him to offer, but I'm happy to fork out. If he lets me go on buying and buying... that's bad form and not a promising sign of a healthy, reciprocal relationship.
e.g.,
We take turns buying rounds (if we're in a bar)
If he gets the movie tickets, I'll get the popcorn.

If I'm really not into someone, I'll probably insist on just paying for my own. That would be the only "kiss of death."
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buffygrrl1



Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guys should pay...sorry. at least the first few dates. DO NOT EVER ask a girl to split the cost with you. If she wants to she will! I refuse to go out with guys that bust out with the whole "I paid for the dinner so you should pay for the movie"...on the first date! How about you don't do anything expensive on the first couple of dates? Go grab some coffee or something...its easier to get to know each other that way. Or go cook her dinner or something like that. Girls really do take you for granted if you spend too much money on them.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buffygrrl1 wrote:
guys should pay...sorry. at least the first few dates.


Why? They don't necessarily make more money. It's been argued that we spend more cash on looking nice, so guys should compensate, but it's easy to look decent on as much as he might spend on a gym membership. Just doesn't seem fair to me.
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seoulshock



Joined: 12 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buffygrrl1 wrote:
guys should pay...sorry. at least the first few dates. DO NOT EVER ask a girl to split the cost with you. If she wants to she will! I refuse to go out with guys that bust out with the whole "I paid for the dinner so you should pay for the movie"...on the first date!


If it's a blind date, it should be dutch.

If the guy asked the girl out, he should pay.

If the girl asked the guy out, she should pay.

If the guy asked the girl out for the first date, and paid for everything, and she's interested in him, she should ask him out for the second date and pay, and not *expect* him to call her to set up another date to take *her* out again.

It's the 21st century, and in the US, more women go to college than men, women will control 60% of the wealth by 2010 (according to Allianz), and women have more rights than men.

Unfortunately too many men equate masculinity with being able to pay for everything, and some of them get offended when women try to pay for them.

Any guy who spends lots of money to attract a girl has lost from the start. Next time any of you guys are sleeping next to a pretty girl, ask yourself whether she's there because she really likes you, or if she's there because you purchased her.

As for girls like the one I quoted above, if she *expects* you to pay for the first few dates, avoid her. A *woman* would not expect it and will not have any of it. A *little girl* expects to be treated like a princess, and you want a *woman*.

Let's dump chivalry (which is one-sided), and be civil to one another, whether it's man <-> woman, woman/man <-> woman/man. Women are not our superiors, and when we try to *take care* of them, we are actually demeaning them.

The highest compliment we men can pay to women is to treat them as peers. The original feminists would agree.

-og feminist
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buffygrrl1



Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the first few dates they should pay... i thought they were trying to impress the girls? like i said you don't even have to pay anything if you go to the park and get to know each other. those dates are better anyway.
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mikekim



Joined: 11 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like I'm paying for sex, if I buy a girl dinner.
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer to split the bill right down the middle or take turns paying.

I don't think men should have to pay for first dates. If I did, I might as well think that he should ask me out first, make the first move and make the first call after the first date.

Seriously....it's 2007. Get with it, ladies!
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulshock wrote:

As for girls like the one I quoted above, if she *expects* you to pay for the first few dates, avoid her. A *woman* would not expect it and will not have any of it. A *little girl* expects to be treated like a princess, and you want a *woman*.


Well, it depends. A lot of *women* are not good in the sack. A lot of *little girls* are...

Crud. That makes me sound like I am a pedophile or know many pedophiles. Joke is lost.
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