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TML1976 · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Location: South Korea

I have what I consider a really nice phone for sale.

It is a Samsung SPH-B5150.

This thing is fully loaded, just to mention a few options:

- Super slim (8.4 mm)
- DMB
- mp3
- 2.0 megapixel camera
- 1 GB memory stick (with memory stick adapter)
- two batteries

and a bunch of other stuff (check out the pics)

Anyway, I bought the phone for 300,000 in april of 2007 and its in immaculate condition. no scratches, bumps, bruises or anything else.

In addition, I am currently on a very good plan with LG telecom, where I pay 39,000 per month and I get 300 minutes of talk time and 100 text for the month. No deposit is required. We can also get this transfered to you if you like. If not, then I can simply cancel the plan and you can do what you want with the phone.

anyway, if you are interested send me a pm or email me at

fmd110(at)gmail(dot)com

pictures

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/fmd110/Cell%20phone/

TML1976 · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Location: South Korea

TML1976 · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Location: South Korea

jadarite · Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:01 am Post subject:

How much are you asking?

TML1976 · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Location: South Korea

150,000 won. OBO!

TML1976 · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Location: South Korea

if you're looking for a phone this is a good one. make me an offer. and keep them realistic, none of the 10,000 won offers.

TML1976 · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Location: South Korea

jadarite · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:05 am Post subject:

150,000 for the phone or does that come with calling time? I don't use cell phones, so I am not sure what the cost of one is. 150,000 seems very high. Don't they have like 20-30,000 won phones these days, and then you pay for calls? In Japan, they give you a phone if you sign a 1 year contract with them. Maybe it's not the same in Korea.

ChinaBoy · Joined: 17 Feb 2007

Correct, it's not the same for most E-2 people in Korea

keep bumping this, I might be in Korea later this month

jadarite · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject:

Ok, so it's not the same. That still doesn't answer what the 150,000 is in reference to.

A) Phone ONLY
B) Phone + calling time

If it's B, how much time?

TML1976 · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Location: South Korea

jadarite · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject:

I read it, but that means to get it up and running it will cost 190,000. Dividing up the costs like you did confuses things and there isn't much info on this cell phone. So, this is hard when comparing costs and determining what one should pay.

At www.naver.com search "Samsung SPH-B5150". There are a few of those being auctioned off.
At www.cnet.com they have "Samsung SPH-M520" (NOT THE SAME, I know). It doesn't look as good as yours, but we can use it as a yardstick for comparison. The price they have noted is "$49.99 - $329.99" which is just as confusing.

One person who reviewed it noted, "You can get it for $249 or $49 with a two-year contract."

So, if a person were to buy your phone with a calling plan, could they get the phone for something closer to 50 (phone) + 40 (monthly phone charge you noted) which would be more like $90? Maybe those auction sites through Naver are on the low end, but if a person buys your phone for 150,000 and pays 40 for phone service, then they are paying 190,000.

Your phone may be better than the one I found at CNET, but is it really worth 100,000 won more?

TML1976 · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Location: South Korea

jadarite · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:26 am Post subject:

I don't want to argue, but I do want to state my position. In short, based on my thinking, selling a used Samsung SPH-B5150 phone should go for 110,000. That's not an offer, but my opinion on this. This would be without the phone plan.

I feel the burden of proof is on the seller to justify their rationale for the amount they want before any counter-offers are made. Present video, review sites with the price, something. I don't understand how you being Korean or not has anything to do with this. The true value of a product is constant.

If you chose to pay twice as much for a phone than someone else, then that in itself shows the TRUE value of the phone is not twice as much. Otherwise, the company selling the phone would never have decided to sell it to Koreans for 150,000 unless they knew they were getting a profit.

Just as I see that as immoral, I don't think it is morally right to carry over the same condition on to other people when reselling the same product (If anything sell it to a Korean for twice the cost, do you get my point?). I think the phone should be treated as a 150,000 won phone new because that is what it is actually worth new, not the inflated cost you paid.

If you can swallow that logic, the next issue has to do with determining the value of something used. I have sold electronic and electrical things in the past, and applying a 75% rule usually gives the seller a good return on something they used as well as providing the buyer a reduced incentive so they don't buy that product or one similar new at a store.

I encourage you to change your asking price to 110 (without the calling plan). If not, I challenge you to be honest next time you offer something to someone. Tell them from the very beginning, "I paid twice as much for this because I am not Korean, so do you want to do something similar with me?"

I think we know what the answer would be.

TML1976 · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Location: South Korea

The true value of the phone was 300,000 won. There was a promotion at that time which offered the phone to koreans for half the price as long as they went on a monthly plan with LG. I was not able to get this rebate despite the fact that I wanted the plan. Therefore, I had to pay the full price (the true value of the phone, at that time, in accordance to the rules of the market). In fact, Koreans who wished to simply purchase the phone and not the plan or put it on a plan they already had, had to pay the 300,000. Or the true value of the phone.

If I had paid 150,000 for the phone then I would be asking for 75,000 and not the 110,00 that you, the morally high person, would ask for. I believe the true value of a used product to be 50% of original price not 75%.

These kinds of deals are common both here and in Canada. Back home if I wanted a certain phone, I could either get it for free or at a discount as long as I signed a contract with that company. However, if I had a plan that I liked better from another company, then I had to buy the phone full price. In my situation, the problem was not the company, but the fact that I was not korean.

Now do me favor and go convince people who care what a rightious and moral person you are and leave this thread alone.