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glimmer



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Postal address confusion Reply with quote

Dumb question maybe ... I'm in one of Seoul's 'satellite' cities and my apartment building has a name-plate on the front with:

(a) building name
(b) building number
(c) dong name
(d) gil number

I asked my landlord what my postal address is, and he indicated that I only need to include (A) and (C), plus the dong zone number and city postcode.

However, some of my Korean colleagues say the landlord is wrong, I need to include (B) and/or (D) or my mail probably won't get delivered. When I asked what would happen if I included all the various names and numbers my colleagues said that would also confuse the mailman.

Who is right? And what are (B) and (D) actually used for, if not for postal addresses?

In the meantime I'm getting mail sent c/- my hagwon's address - at least everyone agrees how that should be written. Rolling Eyes
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on where you live. If you apartment building is in a complex and the buildings don't have individual names then you definitely need your building number. I've never heard of anyone using a road (gil) number in their address.

Look at (or casually glance) at people's mail in other mail boxes and see how the mail they get is addressed. If that's possible. The mail in my building is all thrown into these open mailboxes downstairs.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: Postal address confusion Reply with quote

How is it written on your ARC?
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glimmer



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I casually glanced at a neighbor's mail - no building number ... which suggests the landlord may be correct. It's a smallish (4-storey) apartment building in a side-street, if that's relevant.

But in that case would the unnecessary inclusion of a building number on an address label cause problems? I am missing a couple of letters that should have arrived from overseas by now. (Mail sent to me c/o my hagwon has arrived very promptly so I know the local post office *can* read English address labels.)

My ARC card doesn't state my home address at all.
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icicle



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only had 4 different addresses in Korea (2 home and 2 school) and in each case they have included - Building Name and Building Number - they have never included the gil. I can remember at some stage learning that in Korea generally the building number is usually important - because unlike much of the west they don't generally use street addresses - so the building number is the main way they find addresses (along with the good idea of always including a phone number on parcels so that they can ring if necessary to find the building) ...

But I have also always used my school address for most of my mail ... especially parcels because there is usually someone there ... who can speak Korean and therefore help give directions if necessary to find the place ... I do now know my home address from one of my utility bills ... I asked my school at one stage (I have only been here this time just over a month) and they didn't know the address ... but the utility bill did help ... It wasn't too hard to translate that into romanised form so I could give it to people as required ... But I will stick with the school address for most mail because it works best for me ...
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 2000, addresses were overhauled to include street names and numbers. There's a beautiful poster in my local post office explaining the whole system.

NOBODY uses a street address for mail, except for KICE.

I use: city, gu, dong, dong building number (different from street number,) building name (optional), building floor (optional) and apartment number.
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dc'79



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
In 2000, addresses were overhauled to include street names and numbers. There's a beautiful poster in my local post office explaining the whole system.

NOBODY uses a street address for mail, except for KICE.

I use: city, gu, dong, dong building number (different from street number,) building name (optional), building floor (optional) and apartment number.


I'd go with this. There could be other apartments in the area with the same name.

Also, if you are gonna have someone mail you something from back home. Have them write your address in Korean. And just have _______, South Korea in English at the bottom.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dc'79 wrote:
OiGirl wrote:


I use: city, gu, dong, dong building number (different from street number,) building name (optional), building floor (optional) and apartment number.


I'd go with this. There could be other apartments in the area with the same name.

I guess I wasn't clear that I live in a villa.

When I was in a big apartment building, it was: city, gu, dong, apartment complex name, apartment complex number (cha), apartment number.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're in luck! You can now use the simplified address system.

If you're writing it in Korean:

ZIP Code
Province or Metropolitan City
Guname followed by Dong name
Street Name followed by House Number
Your name

If you're writing it in English:

Your name
Street name followed by house number
Dong name followed by Gu name
Province or Metropolitan City
ZIP Code
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone ever received mail with a street name and house number?

I wouldn't be willing to risk it yet for any mail I actually want to get.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
Has anyone ever received mail with a street name and house number?

I wouldn't be willing to risk it yet for any mail I actually want to get.


Yep. Commencing in January, my bills had the new address on them and I had nothing to do with the companies doing that.

If you're competent in typing Korean on the web, you can go to www.daum.net and plug your old-style address into the map function. It should also give you the new address.


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icicle



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can remember hearing last year that some areas in Seoul were starting to use (or at least be given) street addresses ... But this is by no means widespread across the rest of the country ... And it is likely to take quite some time before the traditional way of thinking about addresses is not the main way to use it ...

I live in Seoul and am definitely not in an area which uses Street Addresses ... in any way ... Much less most of the time ...

I would stick to the addres outline as given by previous posters ... The English address alone should be enough to find you ... I had no trouble last year in getting parcels/letters sent to me ... If it is a parcel I would take the added precaution of including a phone number after the address ... I think it would actually probably be more useful than including the address in Hangul ... Because if they have any trouble in locating the building number they will call the number ... Even with the hangul address I would still include the phone number ...
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My "new" address is, of course, on the plaque stuck on the front of the building. As it should be everywhere, unless your building has been built or renovated in the past eight years and someone thought the plaque was useless and threw it in the trash. (Adding to my collection of Korean address plaques. Laughing )
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the roads have names. All the buildings have sequential house numbers. Do you see those cutesy little two-color signs on the buildings with a number in the top half and some Hangeul writing in the bottom half? That's the street address for the building.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dc'79 wrote:

Also, if you are gonna have someone mail you something from back home. Have them write your address in Korean. And just have _______, South Korea in English at the bottom.


None of my friends can write in Korean. And the US (and maybe other countries) won't let an address go through written solely in Korean.

Make a PDF file in Korean and English so your friends and family can just print and paste it on the package or envelope.
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