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Which COUNTRIES give CITIZENSHIP at BIRTH?
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Which COUNTRIES give CITIZENSHIP at BIRTH? Reply with quote

Which COUNTRIES give CITIZENSHIP at BIRTH?

I know the U.S. use to a long time ago...Ireland as well. But both changed their laws due to rampant abuse of it.

Any other countries out there that still give CITIZENSHIP just for being BORN there?
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli
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DHC



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are born in the US you are a citizen.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you are born in the US you are a citizen.


The anchor babies are proof of this.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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If you are born in the US you are a citizen.


The anchor babies are proof of this.


Well, since the US changed the law some years ago to prohibit minors from sponsoring people into the US and requiring sponsors to prove income sufficient to support the sponsored person, that's pretty much a non-issue now.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a recent look at this issue see this professional historian's thoughts on it.
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Beej



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Which COUNTRIES give CITIZENSHIP at BIRTH? Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Which COUNTRIES give CITIZENSHIP at BIRTH?

I know the U.S. use to a long time ago...Ireland as well. But both changed their laws due to rampant abuse of it.

Any other countries out there that still give CITIZENSHIP just for being BORN there?


When did the 14th ammendment get repealed?
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IncognitoHFX



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Which COUNTRIES give CITIZENSHIP at BIRTH? Reply with quote

Beej wrote:
Tiger Beer wrote:
Which COUNTRIES give CITIZENSHIP at BIRTH?

I know the U.S. use to a long time ago...Ireland as well. But both changed their laws due to rampant abuse of it.

Any other countries out there that still give CITIZENSHIP just for being BORN there?


When did the 14th ammendment get repealed?


Apparently the Patriot Act repeals all of the amendments.

Or maybe I'm just a nutty, nut.
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sjrm



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Which COUNTRIES give CITIZENSHIP at BIRTH? Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
Beej wrote:
Tiger Beer wrote:
Which COUNTRIES give CITIZENSHIP at BIRTH?

I know the U.S. use to a long time ago...Ireland as well. But both changed their laws due to rampant abuse of it.

Any other countries out there that still give CITIZENSHIP just for being BORN there?


When did the 14th ammendment get repealed?


Apparently the Patriot Act repeals all of the amendments.

Or maybe I'm just a nutty, nut.


I'm pretty sure the Patriot Act is unconstitutional. But, then again, Bush seems to get away with a lot.
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petethebrick



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're born in Ireland you still get citizenship. The change in the law means that the parents no longer do automatically, which used to be the case
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Khunopie



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I become a "BORN AGAIN" christian in say, Barcelona, will I become a Spaniard? Hmmmm, food 4 thought....
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

petethebrick wrote:
If you're born in Ireland you still get citizenship. The change in the law means that the parents no longer do automatically, which used to be the case

I saw this from 2004 though..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3801839.stm

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The government said change was needed because foreign women were travelling to Ireland to give birth in order to get an EU passport for their babies.

Ireland has been the only EU country to grant such a right.

The poll results showed that 20.83% of voters rejected the proposed changes. The turnout was 59.95%.

Voters were making their decision on the constitutional issue at the same time as they elected MEPs to the European Union's parliament.

To be approved, the government's referendum on a constitutional amendment requires only a simple majority.

The amendment will allow the government to pass a bill that would allow Irish-born children to receive automatic citizenship only if at least one parent is Irish or if parents have been resident in Ireland for at least three years.

Ireland's Justice Minister Michael McDowell said there was evidence of what he termed "citizenship tourism".
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SirFink



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Which COUNTRIES give CITIZENSHIP at BIRTH? Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
I know the U.S. use to a long time ago...


Used to? Still does. Probably always has and always will. As for the rest of you racist, xenophobic nations... Razz
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petethebrick



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
petethebrick wrote:
If you're born in Ireland you still get citizenship. The change in the law means that the parents no longer do automatically, which used to be the case

I saw this from 2004 though..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3801839.stm

Quote:
The government said change was needed because foreign women were travelling to Ireland to give birth in order to get an EU passport for their babies.

Ireland has been the only EU country to grant such a right.

The poll results showed that 20.83% of voters rejected the proposed changes. The turnout was 59.95%.

Voters were making their decision on the constitutional issue at the same time as they elected MEPs to the European Union's parliament.

To be approved, the government's referendum on a constitutional amendment requires only a simple majority.

The amendment will allow the government to pass a bill that would allow Irish-born children to receive automatic citizenship only if at least one parent is Irish or if parents have been resident in Ireland for at least three years.

Ireland's Justice Minister Michael McDowell said there was evidence of what he termed "citizenship tourism".


Ok, looks like I was wrong! I stand corrected
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little mixed girl



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i really want to say almost every country in the world except japan.
you can get japanese citizenship if one of your parents is a japanese citizen.
but there was a case last year of a kid who was born to japanese parents, but they decided not to register him (since he was mentally retarded), and now at 20 or so he has no citizenship.
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