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What has your experience been Like at local bars

 
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MA_TESOL



Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: What has your experience been Like at local bars Reply with quote

Ever go alone to a local bar that is almost only frequented by Korean customers. How has that been for you?
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's tough because Korean bars don't usually have a...oh what do you call it...a bar. It's just a bunch of booths like a damn TGIFriday's. Nonetheless with a little friendliness you can almost surely find some group of drunks to hang out with you. It's usually a rather pathetic scene though.

Them: So you're from America?

You: Right.

Them: So were you drunk and lonely in America too?

You: Right.
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to go to bars often..had good times...sitting at the bar, talking with the bar staff....always got bought drinks by random korean dudes...if i was alone, often got invited to join someone for a drink..
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Ronald



Joined: 14 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bars here suck in general except Tin Pan and and few others. Say what you want, they're the best in town for fun.

NOthing like college bars back in the states though, where the beer's cheap, bands are awesome, girls are drop dead gorgeous. Hell, we ever had a boxing ring in one bar.

By the way, Can someone define "partying" in Korean culture?
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semphoon



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ronald wrote:


By the way, Can someone define "partying" in Korean culture?


Yes, in three words.


Rock

Scissor

Paper
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R-Seoul



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: your place

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once went to a local all Korean bar with a k-girl near my apartment. The bar was decked out in a wild west theme and full of pissed up adjuma�s and adjoshi�s wearing suits and I was thinking that I'd better watch my step and not be too conspicuous. However as soon as I set foot in the damn place the entire bar staff came over to say �herro� to me. We sat at the bar, and there was some piss poor juggling of bottles being done by the cocktail waiters and being MC�d by some tool with dyed blonde hair. As soon as he saw me he announced there was a �Waygook� in the house and came over to shake my hand, he then ensured I won a prize despite not understanding a word that was being said.

In short it was crap and I never went back.
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R-Seoul wrote:
I once went to a local all Korean bar with a k-girl near my apartment. The bar was decked out in a wild west theme and full of pissed up adjuma�s and adjoshi�s wearing suits and I was thinking that I'd better watch my step and not be too conspicuous. However as soon as I set foot in the damn place the entire bar staff came over to say �herro� to me. We sat at the bar, and there was some piss poor juggling of bottles being done by the cocktail waiters and being MC�d by some tool with dyed blonde hair. As soon as he saw me he announced there was a �Waygook� in the house and came over to shake my hand, he then ensured I won a prize despite not understanding a word that was being said.

In short it was crap and I never went back.


Christ, have you been reading my diary? I swear the same thing happened to me.

A bit off topic, but love the "Western" bar theme. It's interesting to see ones own culture reduced to an odd collection of tacky sh*t tacked on a wall. Why can't a Western bar be filled stuff like busts of Plato and copies of the Mangna Carta and Beethoven's Symphonies?

If I still wrote the Yangpa, I'd do a story about a tanker filled with chintzy crap intended for the walls of some korean bar crashing and spilling its contents by some island. And then all the natives would be roofing their houses with 1950s movie posters and cutting bananas with South Dakota license plates and the chief would wear a moosehead as a headdress. And they could use copies of the Thriller cover as currency.
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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Mullae

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite experience in a "local" bar was a place in Bundang. It actually had a bar, two actually, which is impressive. What was hilarious was the way that every time I came in and sat down at the bar the owner would frown at the bartender, who would then disappear momentarily before reappearing with this huge unabridged dictionary. He would then page through it in an attempt to find some words to strike up a conversation with. The look on his face was tragic as he paged pitifully through his tome. I still feel for the poor guy. His boss was a nice guy, but it's a bit much to expect even the best of barkeeps to entertain your only patron with a dictionary.
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Imrahil



Joined: 04 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:30 am    Post subject: Re: What has your experience been Like at local bars Reply with quote

MA_TESOL wrote:
Ever go alone to a local bar that is almost only frequented by Korean customers. How has that been for you?


I usually ended up getting drunk!
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bobranger



Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go to a little watering hole on my way home from work. It�s your typical hof and soju place. It has a small bar where they serve moderately priced Jack Daniels shots. I usually stay for forty minutes. Give a couple of hello�s to the owner and her family. They let me run a tab which I pay on Friday. Listen to Howard Stern on my MP3 and head home. Nothing exciting, same as I usually do at home. Not much to say on either end.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those boring beer hofs are like over priced restaurants, but will be places you go out with Korean acquantances or to do privates. They might have a stage with all the audio and visual equipment, but never have music or entertainment of any sort. Many will not serve you, but it helps a great deal if you're with Korean people as it's necessary to be a couple or in a group to go out like a Korean which happens when you're invited.

I took a couple Korean friends to a real bar; a foreigner bar. They found it strange that it was not required on thier part to buy food and that everyone sat in a circle around the bartender instead of in private booths, but they liked how it was less constrained kind of social/drinking situation. I explained that this is a real bar you go out to drink and mingle with people.
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:


I took a couple Korean friends to a real bar; a foreigner bar. They found it strange that it was not required on thier part to buy food and that everyone sat in a circle around the bartender instead of in private booths, but they liked how it was less constrained kind of social/drinking situation. I explained that this is a real bar you go out to drink and mingle with people.


Did your korean friends live in a cave previous to going out with you? There are tons of bars with bars all over seoul..where you dont have to buy food...not just foreigner bars...There are tons of them..cocktail bars, whiskey bars etc...most of the 'sky bar' type places at the top of buildings are normal bars with bars...not hof style..

I find it very hard to believe that your korean friends thought it was strange...unless they themselves were.
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kiknkorea



Joined: 16 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: What has your experience been Like at local bars Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
They might have a stage with all the audio and visual equipment, but never have music or entertainment of any sort.


Guess you haven't been at the right times. Many of the HOF bars with stages have acts there all the time, even if it's just a solo violinist, guitarist, etc. During the week they usually have them play around 10pm. The time varies on weekends, but it's a bigger show.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, this was in a smaller city with 2 foreigner bars and there was one Korean bar that is western style with a real bar though it was still required to buy fried food so it is still a beer hof.

One would think Changwon, a city of 500,000 is a large city, but it's just a small town, culturally speaking. To illustrate this fact, my 30 year Korean friend going to university in Changwon never before ate Big Macs and pizza and drank in a real bar until I introduced this to him by inviting him along for my choice of places to go out. I took him out to an American Thanksgiving meal at the Seamans club in Busan last year and the only thing he could eat where the deserts as the food is too bland and strange for him. Korea is westernizing, but only technologically; not culturally.

It is true that the rest of Korea outside of Seoul is surprisingly inward thinking regardless of how large of a city you can find outside of Seoul. It can look modern, but still not be culturally developed enough to have real western style things going on where traditionalism still lives on.
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