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haute 4 teacher



Joined: 19 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: can't....stand.....the ignorance Reply with quote

Even the god damn colleges are going to protest.

Aren't they supposed to be the smart ones?

So sick of the ignorance and misinformation........


mad cow is not a problem!!!
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: can't....stand.....the ignorance Reply with quote

haute 4 teacher wrote:
Even the god damn colleges are going to protest.

Aren't they supposed to be the smart ones?
mad cow is not a problem!!!



Dude, have you even been to a North American post-secondary institution? Retards... everywhere. Hippie retards, jock retards, "smart" retards, professor retards...

Sure, intelligence occurs at more regular intervals than in the real world, but colleges are also notorious for having the worst kind of retard... the kind that thinks they're smart.
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Kiarell



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're the morons, mad cow is a huge problem in North America; the regulatory agencies are beholden to large agribusinesses and a re a complete joke, much the same other top-heavy organiztions like the US EPA are.

Mad cow is quite rampant. It's non-existent within the cows that are actually TESTED, the vast, vast majority are not. For an idea on how blissfully ignorant and propagandized people under US control are, look at drugs. When they do clinical trials for anti-depressants they throw out the data for test subjects who have to quit the trials because the drugs messed them up so badly. So if 20 out of 30 people go nuts from anti-depressants or attempt suicide the data is discarded. Of the 10 who remain, if the drug worked for 8 of them the drug is considered a success. The companies KNOW much that the consumers don't. Agent Orange, DDT, the companies knew from day one.

Additionally, this is about communal control over food. In a society decisions should be communal, localized, and democratic. This is a public health issue as well as an erosion of localized food production.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiarell wrote:
you're the morons, mad cow is a huge problem in North America; the regulatory agencies are beholden to large agribusinesses and a re a complete joke, much the same other top-heavy organiztions like the US EPA are.

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Mad cow is quite rampant
. It's non-existent within the cows that are actually TESTED, the vast, vast majority are not. For an idea on how blissfully ignorant and propagandized people under US control are, look at drugs. When they do clinical trials for anti-depressants they throw out the data for test subjects who have to quit the trials because the drugs messed them up so badly. So if 20 out of 30 people go nuts from anti-depressants or attempt suicide the data is discarded. Of the 10 who remain, if the drug worked for 8 of them the drug is considered a success. The companies KNOW much that the consumers don't. Agent Orange, DDT, the companies knew from day one.

Additionally, this is about communal control over food. In a society decisions should be communal, localized, and democratic. This is a public health issue as well as an erosion of localized food production.


Link?
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Grab the Chickens Levi



Joined: 29 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiarell wrote:
you're the morons, mad cow is a huge problem in North America; the regulatory agencies are beholden to large agribusinesses and a re a complete joke, much the same other top-heavy organiztions like the US EPA are.

Mad cow is quite rampant. It's non-existent within the cows that are actually TESTED, the vast, vast majority are not. For an idea on how blissfully ignorant and propagandized people under US control are, look at drugs. When they do clinical trials for anti-depressants they throw out the data for test subjects who have to quit the trials because the drugs messed them up so badly. So if 20 out of 30 people go nuts from anti-depressants or attempt suicide the data is discarded. Of the 10 who remain, if the drug worked for 8 of them the drug is considered a success. The companies KNOW much that the consumers don't. Agent Orange, DDT, the companies knew from day one.

Additionally, this is about communal control over food. In a society decisions should be communal, localized, and democratic. This is a public health issue as well as an erosion of localized food production.


True. Sit back, watch Gladiators, more Coke, more Snickers....
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Jeweltone



Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never mind....

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Roving_gypsy_gurl



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm beginning to think the issue is less mad cow and a bit more the 2MB government's handling of the issue.

The people feel like their concerns have been brushed aside in a sort of totilitarian "we do what we want because we are in charge" sort of way. Instead of producing evidence of safety and a show of flexibility, those in charge have chosen to respond with dominance. The more individualistic younger Koreans don't like this. 2MB was a controversial choice for president to begin with and especially unpopular with the younger generation. And he's turned out to be the sort of president that they feared he'd be. They're reacting more to that than to any health threat.

I'm sure there's also a lot of ignorance over the issue and quite a few people who believe that they are going to die if their beef comes from the US. But it's not the whole source of the protests, nor is it the key motivator for a lot of what's happening.
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ernie



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you've hit the nail on the head ^... it's not WHAT he's doing, but HOW he's doing it!
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komerican



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The scientist who headed the U.K. government's Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee, James Pattison, had even admitted that millions of people could already be incubating the disease, which is indetectable, incurable, always fatal and invisible for years or even decades before emerging as an Alzheimer's-like killer."

http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/1998Q1/oprah.html

Since there are a lot of things that are unknown about this disease it's probably smart to err on the safe side.

Also, there is no freedom of speech on this issue in the US. A few years ago Oprah, a US talk show host, was sued by some cattle ranchers for even associating mad cow (BSE) disease with US cattle on her show.
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Grab the Chickens Levi



Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Location: Ilsan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

komerican wrote:
"The scientist who headed the U.K. government's Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee, James Pattison, had even admitted that millions of people could already be incubating the disease, which is indetectable, incurable, always fatal and invisible for years or even decades before emerging as an Alzheimer's-like killer."

http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/1998Q1/oprah.html

Since there are a lot of things that are unknown about this disease it's probably smart to err on the safe side.

Also, there is no freedom of speech on this issue in the US. A few years ago Oprah, a US talk show host, was sued by some cattle ranchers for even associating mad cow (BSE) disease with US cattle on her show.


No one stopped her from saying it, so it is not cencorship of speach.

She was find for lible by some cattle ranhcers, not the government.

Lible and opression of free speach by the govt are two distinctly different and seperate issues.

Anyway, back to it, happy trolling idiot.

You are one of the only posters on the forum that I feel no bad vibes about openly verbally abusing.
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RJjr



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the credit of the Koreans, they show a lot of zeal about a perceived danger before it happens. In America, we won't protest the Iraq war until a draft begins and we have to worry about our own asses getting shot at.

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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

komerican wrote:
"The scientist who headed the U.K. government's Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee, James Pattison, had even admitted that millions of people could already be incubating the disease, which is indetectable, incurable, always fatal and invisible for years or even decades before emerging as an Alzheimer's-like killer."

http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/1998Q1/oprah.html

Since there are a lot of things that are unknown about this disease it's probably smart to err on the safe side.

Also, there is no freedom of speech on this issue in the US. A few years ago Oprah, a US talk show host, was sued by some cattle ranchers for even associating mad cow (BSE) disease with US cattle on her show.


Your link says the Oprah show was in 1996. If BSE is 'rampant' in the US, wouldn't we now, in 2008, be seeing a widespread outbreak?
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steroidmaximus



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm beginning to think the issue is less mad cow and a bit more the 2MB government's handling of the issue.

The people feel like their concerns have been brushed aside in a sort of totilitarian "we do what we want because we are in charge" sort of way. Instead of producing evidence of safety and a show of flexibility, those in charge have chosen to respond with dominance. The more individualistic younger Koreans don't like this. 2MB was a controversial choice for president to begin with and especially unpopular with the younger generation. And he's turned out to be the sort of president that they feared he'd be. They're reacting more to that than to any health threat.

I'm sure there's also a lot of ignorance over the issue and quite a few people who believe that they are going to die if their beef comes from the US. But it's not the whole source of the protests, nor is it the key motivator for a lot of what's happening.


I disagree. The issue you mentioned above has been around since the beginning of the protests, but it has been gaining a lot more currency of late. It however has nothing to do with the pictures and rumours of mad cow. More and more Koreans are beginning to realize they sound like complete buffoons talking about mad cow and food safety, hence the shift onto what has been up to now a minor complaint: it is a far more defensible and rational position.
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daemyann



Joined: 09 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this thread has already shown how far reaching the misinformation is, which had made it's title seem brash, hypocritical and unproductive, and thus should implode in on itself.

please preempt it's collapse into nothingness by closing it.
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komerican



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
komerican wrote:
"The scientist who headed the U.K. government's Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee, James Pattison, had even admitted that millions of people could already be incubating the disease, which is indetectable, incurable, always fatal and invisible for years or even decades before emerging as an Alzheimer's-like killer."

http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/1998Q1/oprah.html

Since there are a lot of things that are unknown about this disease it's probably smart to err on the safe side.

Also, there is no freedom of speech on this issue in the US. A few years ago Oprah, a US talk show host, was sued by some cattle ranchers for even associating mad cow (BSE) disease with US cattle on her show.


Your link says the Oprah show was in 1996. If BSE is 'rampant' in the US, wouldn't we now, in 2008, be seeing a widespread outbreak?


I'm not saying we shouldn't eat beef from the US. I think keeping it under the 30 month period is a good way to ensure safe beef. The US beef industry could eliminate this issue overnight by agreeing to test more cattle. As long as they stubbornly refuse to do that I don't think Koreans are being unreasonable in demanding the same standards set by other countries.

and GtCL, try to argue the points instead of being so emotional.
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