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fozziejr2
Joined: 05 May 2008 Location: soon to be korea (august 08)
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS ENGLISH PLEASE HELP MEEEEE |
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So I am trying to do two things here:
1. Teach a summer camp in Korea from July-August, which means I need a C4 visa
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2. Teach for EPIK from August 2008-August 2009 which means I need an E2 visa.
Now I have been told two things, or so I think:
1. I need to get my C4 in the states, teach the camp, fly to Fukasomething Japan and then get my E2, then fly back to Korea
or 2. If EPIK gives me my documents early, I can get my E2 visa, then i can get my 'short term work permit' (C4 I am assuming) in Korea.
Does anybody actually know what the case is here????? I would love to believe the second scenario that I wouldnt have to leave Korea, but I do not think that is true. Plus I don't think you can have two visa's at once. But what do I know. The answer is nothing.
Any experiences, or info will help greatly! |
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Suwon23
Joined: 24 Jan 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Fukasomething is Fukuoka. But I thought the whole "leave the country to renew your visa" bu11sh17 had been done away with... ? |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Suwon23 wrote: |
Fukasomething is Fukuoka. But I thought the whole "leave the country to renew your visa" bu11sh17 had been done away with... ? |
How so? I am changing employers at the end of my contract. I must get a new E-2 visa and that requires leaving Korea.
OP, I don't know about the C visa. |
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cazzy3

Joined: 07 May 2008 Location: kangwon-do
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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does the summer camp you are teaching for provide the c-4 visa for you? if they don't allow it, you could also just come over on a travel visa (up to 3-6 months depending on nationality), but the bad news is that EPIK won't issue your E-2 visa any sooner than the date you are to work for them.
if you have to make a run to japan, it's not that bad. the only other option would be to see if you cold obtain your e-2 visa after your c-4 expires at the immigration- similar to those that renew theirs. |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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no, you can't have 2 visas at once. please think about it, ok? these are legal permissions to work in a country - each w/their own specific set of regs.
the C4 is a temporary but needs to be canceled before you receive the E2 - which it will be when you leave the country to get the E2- no, you can't "transfer" the C4 to an E2.
it sounds like you've not been issued an E2 before which means you'll need to have a consulate interview (or not, depending on how they view your summer camp experience). either way, you're looking at a visa run - but it doesn't have to be a problem, am not sure why you are looking at it negatively?
visa runs are really kind of fun - and you don't have to go to Japan - I've done them in Taipei and Bangkok - which might look pretty good after a summer camp in Korea
anyway, make sure you have ALL your docs in order before coming here and you might also make sure about the consulate interview - if they require one in your HOME country you might be out some moolah flying back and forth re: again the summer camp.
whatever you do make sure the camp is sponsoring your C4 visa else you could wind up not getting paid - yes, like everything else in K, it does happen.
*if I were you* I'd chill out and enjoy my summer and come on in the fall at the EPIK program - camps can be so incredibly tortuous - wow - not always but to start here that way (and I've done my share of summer and winter ones) might make you a bit crazed - not to mention if you wind up having to fly home again, any earnings you make will be quickly absorbed.
**also** better make sure you can deal with Korean food - camps don't have anything western to eat and quick trips to the local mart can be expensive.
good luck. you'll sort it out. |
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fozziejr2
Joined: 05 May 2008 Location: soon to be korea (august 08)
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:10 am Post subject: |
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What do you mean 'sponsor' my C4 visa? They have sent me a huge packet of papers, some of which I need to take to the consulate to get the C4 visa.
Also, why would you say summer camps are so stressful? I have to teach 11 or less kids lessons that are preplanned and written out for me at Kon Kuk University in Seoul. I already have them and they look relatively simple. Of course I know nothing since I am not there yet.
EPIK said they had no problem with me working this camp. They told me I will have to pay for my flight out to the camp, but they will pay for my flights to and from Korea to get my E2 visa after the camp is over (I only have a window of 5 days).
Will I need to call the consulate in Taiwan or Japan before I go there? Does anybody there speak any english? Ay ay ay, so many questions. |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:29 am Post subject: |
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fozziejr2 wrote: |
What do you mean 'sponsor' my C4 visa? They have sent me a huge packet of papers, some of which I need to take to the consulate to get the C4 visa. |
because some people will hire you and not even mention the visa issue or just ask what kind of visa do you have. the fact they've sent you papers is good - it means they are on the up and up at least as far as you being legal is concerned.
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Also, why would you say summer camps are so stressful? |
it's ok, maybe your experience will be different
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Will I need to call the consulate in Taiwan or Japan before I go there? Does anybody there speak any english? |
yes, there will be someone there who speaks E - and you only need to call them if you don't know what time to go there to process a visa - Bangkok is afternoons only, Taipei (Taiwan) go in the morning, 2 days but if you beg he'll do it the next day; Japan, don't recall, someone here can respond
5 days is plenty of time to have a holiday-visa run as long as you don't have to return for the consulate interview - don't forget this OP, you could be asking for trouble if someone in Kimmi gets a hair up their american-beef-eating butt and wants to make life difficult for you!!
good luck tho. especially w/the camp  |
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aka Dave
Joined: 02 May 2008 Location: Down by the river
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Bibbitybop wrote: |
Suwon23 wrote: |
Fukasomething is Fukuoka. But I thought the whole "leave the country to renew your visa" bu11sh17 had been done away with... ? |
How so? I am changing employers at the end of my contract. I must get a new E-2 visa and that requires leaving Korea.
OP, I don't know about the C visa. |
I don't think you need to leave the country for an E-2 renewal. I'm currently on an E-1 visa, which is teaching Uni.
But. Last year I was working at a hagwon, and my E-2 visa was up and the hagwon wanted me to teach for a month before I transfered to my Uni job.
So I simply went to the Cheong-ju immigration office and renewed my E-2 and taught for the hagwon for a month. Then, when I was done I went to Tokyo to get the E-1 visa. To get a *different* visa apparently you need to leave.
The visa officer actually threatened my uni boss saying this would confuse people and create problems but it worked out fine (aside from the fact that I moronically bought a cab from narita airport to my hotel in Tokyo, which cost 200, 000 won. Take the train!). |
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hugekebab

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:32 am Post subject: |
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fozziejr2 wrote: |
Also, why would you say summer camps are so stressful? I have to teach 11 or less kids lessons that are preplanned and written out for me at Kon Kuk University in Seoul. I already have them and they look relatively simple. Of course I know nothing since I am not there yet.
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Mate, they'll tell you their farts smell of roses to get you over here. the hours may be more than they are telling you, more kids, more badly behaved than you expect, or you may have a bit of luck an it may be superb; the main problem with korean employers is that it could be either, you just dont know until you get here. definitly do it though, it will be a rewarding experience (not the teaching, the teaching will be a pathetic joke of an experience, it's just the actual coming to Korea, travelling and learning from it which will be good.) |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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OP,
You're being 'snowed' by the recruiter.
You will not be able to do a visa run to Fukuoka to get an E-2 because you will be in Korea on a C-4. In order to do a visa run to a third country, one be in posession (or have posessed in the past) an E-2; and have a spotless Immigration record.
You WILL be required to return to your home country and do an embassy/consular interview in order to obtain an E-2.
Forget about the stupid camp (your airfare to go back will eat up alot of what you make) and just come over to work at a public school on an E-2. |
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fozziejr2
Joined: 05 May 2008 Location: soon to be korea (august 08)
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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i will have to say that i will have to take the advice of the last poster. thank you. |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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fozziejr2 wrote: |
i will have to say that i will have to take the advice of the last poster. thank you. |
he only repeated what I said -
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