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Criminal Record check/Vulnerable Sector Search-ON,Canada

 
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phnx4life



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Criminal Record check/Vulnerable Sector Search-ON,Canada Reply with quote

Greetings everyone!

I need to get some clarity on the V.S.S and if this could actually be an issue regarding my situation. I have been working in Korea since 2005 and will be going back to Windsor,Ontario, Canada after this 3rd contract is finished. I know that the V.S.S is to check an individual/teacher who will be working with children,elder, handicap or just the vulnerable in general. I will need the Crim. check(not an issue for me) and V.S.S before I start another contract. From what I understand the V.S.S would display 'allegations' or any "negative police contact' My question is will the V.S.S only show info. relevant to the position one is trying to obtain? For example, if someone is alleged of something like minor theft in a company, but never charged. Yet the individual who wants to be a teacher or is one, but needs a V.S.S in order to pursue/continue a career without displaying such bias on a form. How does Korean immigration discern a V.S.S?

Many foreigners are working with just a Crim. check, which is how it should be.In my opinion, anything else would just be discriminatory.

Thanks to anyone who can help answer this correctly or direct me with this query to any viable source on the internet or contact back in Ontario,Canada. Wink
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talika



Joined: 30 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for more information:

http://www.koreanconsulate.on.ca/en/?b_id=77&c_id=343&mnu=a02b03&start=1

A. For individuals with visa issuance confirmation numbers:
� Visa issuance confirmation number
(Clearly stated on the bottom of the visa application form)
� Sealed university transcript


B. For instructors invited by the Ministry of Education or Regional Office of Education :
� Original university degree
� Sealed university transcript
� Original employment contract from the superintendent of Educational Affairs
� Notice of appointment from the head of Gyowon University Training Centre or the superintendent
of Educational Affairs
� Police Records Search Certificate including VULNERABLE SECTOR SEARCH
( Effective from Dec 15, 2007, must be issued within the last 3 months by Ontario or Manitoba Government)



So, from my understanding you do not need V.S.S if you are working for private hakwon, but you do if you will work for the Ministry of Education[/b]
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phnx4life



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Thanks talika Reply with quote

Thanks Talika for the info. Talika but it doesn't specifically answer my question. Yes, I intend on working in the public school sector in Korea next time around.
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eddie420man



Joined: 22 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend who lived in the same area as you did back home.

When he was a minor he was charged and convicted about 4 times for drug related offences, some of them fairly serious. He went to jail as a minor as the result of these charges.

When he was an adult he had been charged with offences, some serious, however was never convicted.

When he applied for his VSS to work in korea, it came back clear.

On the VSS form it said it was only searching for a handful of offences (mostly sexual, or offences that put a vulnerable person in any danger) that the person has pending, convictions, has been pardoned, or has been charged but not convicted.

So from the search he had done, which was also from ontario, It would be safe to say that your getting yourself in a worry for no reason.

Your VSS will be clean.
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phnx4life



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:06 am    Post subject: Thanks eddie420man Reply with quote

Thanks for clearing that up. That's all I needed to know. Thanks for the info. and congrats to your friend.
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greggers



Joined: 04 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Canadian VSS is just like a regular background check in that the police take your info, fire it through C-PIC and various other databases to see if you've been charged/convicted. The only difference with the VSS is that it includes a search in the sex offender database.

Bottom line: you'd have to have done something pretty criminal not to pass it. Some loss prevention guy saying you have sticky hands but then not charging you will not be a problem.

edit: sorry forgot to mention... it just comes back pass/fail!
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phnx4life



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:08 am    Post subject: Thanks greggers..pass or fail? Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, but pass or fail? What qualifies as a pass or a fail? What would that mean in either case? In the case of the floorwalkers/loss prevention pylons, they failed to get a real job and passed on licking and kissing the asses of corporate-fascist-capitalist fat cats. But that is just my opinion. To digress, these dogs of profit will do anything to establish and maintain the profit margin..even set-ups and take downs.

Once again, thanks for your input and info.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you talking about?

You'll fit right in in Korea.
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greggers



Joined: 04 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pass/fail means they'll look at your record (or lack there-of) and give you back a letter saying either there are "concerns" or "no concerns", as well as indicate the existence or non-existence of a criminal record. They won't go into detail.

I should note that the forms and letters are different for every Ontario police department, but they all follow those basic lines.

But no your run in with the LP's will not be a factor, it'll just come back "no concerns, no record" (if that is in fact the case).
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phnx4life



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Thanks greggers Reply with quote

Thank you for the additional info. It is the case that I was set-up and could of fought it, even according to my economics professor at the time. Since I was leaving the country and there were no charges or any form of litigation, I simply quit. I thought it would be best to conserve energy and keep a positive approach to entering a new lifestyle and a change.

Cheers and Gumbae!
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