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[JamesFord]

I'm just curious. A job like this is looking for someone with an F2. Seven people in fact. 2.5 mill a month for 6 days of work a week?



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1. Location : Soongsil Univ. (Line 7, #738)

2. Schedule : 21st, July ~ 22nd August

3. Working hour : am 9:00 ~ pm 5:00

4. Working day : Mon ~ Sat

5. Students : Elementary ~ Middle school(about 10 ~ 15)

6. Payment : 2,500,000 won

7. Notice

1) We need 7 people.

2) F-2 visa PLZ.

If you have E-2(tourist visa) visa,
You have to receive a certificate from the principal, in Hak-won or etc.

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They also don't seem to know the difference between an E-2 visa and a tourist visa.

[PRagic]

Sometimes I still find time in schedule to drop these people an e-mail to let them know what tools they are. I'm polite, but get the message across that they are either totally out of touch with reality, or they are trying to simply use inexperienced foreigners.

The way I look at it, if 10 or 20 people a day sent these places negative emails, they might get a clue, or, at the very least, realize that people are on to them.

[jadarite]

Why do they prefer F2?

[Whistleblower]

Toss@rs, married or not, take those jobs.

[Suwon23]

I would guess that they don't expect any F-2 teachers, but threw that in there just in case. Kind of like when the mall store says they want "dynamic go-getters" but know full well they'll only get the usual troglodytes. I suspect that "certificate" from the principle is just his signature.

Or maybe they really have no idea what an F-2 visa is.

[jadarite]

Check this offer out, LOL

280-300 Students (6th grade) stay on premises (but not with teachers) for 1 week at a time (M-F) & learn hands-on in various simulation rooms, i.e. Global connections, google earth, world festivals, photo lab, broadcast station, cooking lab, ...

We've an excellent team of collaborative, highly motivated, exciting 20-person international staff <age range: 24-28> housed in a hillside of Bundang with beautiful scenery on a separate floor than students (but sharing the same building).

Positions are full time (max 40/wk) & we offer 1.9-2.2 mil. won/mos DOE, 2-4 wks paid holiday DOC, plus housing (pair share & inclusive of utilities), food (M-F), airfare reimbursement (DOC: 1 way for 6mos contract & RT for 1yr (capped) & 50% medical for the right candidates.

(No medical for the wrong candidates?)

[Netz]

If they do James, they are idiots.

I've seen many recruiters lately with the "F2 only" monickers, and I just can't believe there are actually any F visas holders dumb enough to take these 2.5 salary/35k an hour jobs.

They could make at least 50k just teaching the kids in the nieghborhood.

And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

If recruiters/schools want the "burden free" employment of an F visa holder, they should be willing to pay for it (because E visa holders get a lot of perks F's usually don't in terms of monetary compensation, such as rent, plane tickets, etc.).

I guess if the newlywed F visa holder is used to making 2 million a month, 2.5 is step up, but they clearly underestimate thier value.

I know Koreans with no college who make that much teaching at hagwons.

Oh well, to each his own.

[PRagic]

Any F visa holder making under 4 million a month is either really lazy, in school full time, or an idiot.

Another poster was right. They want an F2 holder because they don't want to deal with the visa hasltes.

Again, feel free to e-mail these places and let them know that they need to pay a premium for what they seek, or at least freakin market value!

[tob55]

Question: Who takes these jobs?

Answer: No one with any experience in Korea and/or a brain that is functioning normally.

The recruiters are just trying to create more opportunities to pad their pockets off of the efforts of the foreign work pool. Especially those of us who have committed to Korea in a more permanent way by getting our "F" visa.

Personally, I find it to be an insult to my intelligence that they would even advertise this stuff. They should at least be honest enough to say it this way:

Want a job where we make loads of money off of your hard work and reputation? If so, and you don't mind being taken advantage of, contact us! We have a job for you!

One Clarification: I am not saying that all recruiters in Korea are bad. I am saying the greater majority of them are interested in only one thing, and it has nothing to do with your skills and qualifications. They are interested only in money. Don't be fooled by the guy who consistently says "We're working for you."

[Korlingus]

Future midnight runners take those jobs. The recruiters subsequently put additional ads on Dave's, he makes more money, and the cycle continues. It's just business!

[Chicoloco]

[PRagic]

Yeah, yeah, and another one from western firms I love is the ole, 'Seeking someone who values a dynamic, challenging work environment and the opportunity to gain valuable experience over someone who just values money'. Who do they think they're kidding?

The thing with the ads mentioned so far, though, is that they want F visa holders. There might be a newbie Kyopo dumb enough to take one of those jobs, but any non-Korean would have to have been here at least a few years to have gotten an F series visa. You're right - they are insulting.

[Mr. Pink]

The problem is that F2s are taking jobs that they really shouldn't.

I see all kinds of jobs offering 2.5-3.0 mil for an F2 visa holder. Considering that there are many jobs that need either an F2/F4, why do people settle?

Part-time work for 25-35k for F2s only? WTF is that...it makes me angry that people are taking these jobs. If F2s didn't then the rates would go to where they should be, in the 40k+ area. Recruiters are making a killing off these dumb F2s.

[PRagic]

I agree. I'm interviewing at some places, and asking for an extra 7-10 million/year right off the top because 1) I don't require housing (and they are offering it), 2) they'll have no visa hastles, and 3) I WANT to be here long-term, whereas it's a crap shoot as to whether or not the other applicants can stick it out and 4) they won't have to pay me relocation or airfare.

We'll see if it flies.

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