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Teaching adults-- YBM, Pagoda, Wall Street

 
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PBRstreetgang21



Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Location: Orlando, FL--- serving as man's paean to medocrity since 1971!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:03 am    Post subject: Teaching adults-- YBM, Pagoda, Wall Street Reply with quote

Im looking into teaching adults for the coming year, what does anyone know about YBM, Pagoda or Wall street Institute? Are these good companies to work for? Split shifts?

any recommendations from anyone if I want to teach adults?
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postfundie



Joined: 28 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are plenty of threads about these places on here already. I've worked at two of the places you mentioned. Be prepared for split shifts since you are first starting out. Adults are quite demanding and rightly so as they don't want to waste their time and money. My advice is to keep pumping them full of usefull vocab (AT LEAST 10 new words per class ..) also the 5 w's and 1 h should be drilled into their brains to keep them speaking and to keep your Teacher Talk Time down...
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

postfundie wrote:
there are plenty of threads about these places on here already. I've worked at two of the places you mentioned. Be prepared for split shifts since you are first starting out. Adults are quite demanding and rightly so as they don't want to waste their time and money. My advice is to keep pumping them full of usefull vocab (AT LEAST 10 new words per class ..) also the 5 w's and 1 h should be drilled into their brains to keep them speaking and to keep your Teacher Talk Time down...


what are "5 w's and 1 h"?
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semi-fly



Joined: 07 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChinaBoy wrote:
postfundie wrote:
there are plenty of threads about these places on here already. I've worked at two of the places you mentioned. Be prepared for split shifts since you are first starting out. Adults are quite demanding and rightly so as they don't want to waste their time and money. My advice is to keep pumping them full of usefull vocab (AT LEAST 10 new words per class ..) also the 5 w's and 1 h should be drilled into their brains to keep them speaking and to keep your Teacher Talk Time down...


what are "5 w's and 1 h"?


1. Who?
2. What?
3. Where?
4. When?
5. Why?

1.How?
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WoBW



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: HBC

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked at the Gangnam Pagoda a few years ago. I liked it. As there were so many teachers there with a pretty even split of preferences for working early or late, I never had to do an extreme split shift. My worst was my first month when I taught 7 50-minute classes between 10am and 10pm. But, I also worked at another place where I started at 6:40am and finished at 10pm. That is a whole different ball game.

At Pagoda, many of the teachers who'd been there a while were working 2pm to 10pm, so not unlike the hours at a kids hagwon. As another poster said, adults can be demanding. The complaint I got was that I wasn't doing enough correction - so watch out for that but without making them feel foolish.

I found the books to be very good for the general conversation classes, although not for the more academic PIP (boring books for that type of class). Back to the conversation book, I thought they contained useful language and really did facilitate speaking. In a typical 50 minute lesson, I would spend maybe 15-20 minutes introducing the new vocabulary/grammar/lexis and then for the rest of the class it was really the students working in pairs/groups with me just going around listening. Then at the end I would highlight any common problems I had observed and generally give feedback.

I have heard some people did not like working at Pagoda, but for me it it was a good experience.
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fancypants



Joined: 22 May 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked at WSI a few years back and I would highly recommend it. At that time, no split shifts were required, but that could have changed.
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jadefrog



Joined: 17 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can recommend working for YBM. Lots of opportunities for overtime (not forced) and a good place to cut your teeth.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never see WSI hiring on Dave's job site.

Anybody got their website?
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't comment on other adult schools as I haven't worked at them, but I can tell you Wall Street Institute is a great place to work.
No job is perfect, but it would take me one hand to count the major gripes I have about the job and a dozen hands to count what I like about it.
Oh, no split shifts. Ever. PM me if you have other specific questions.

matthews_world wrote:
I never see WSI hiring on Dave's job site.

Anybody got their website?


http://www.wsikorea.com
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You left out...BCM... Very Happy
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