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[rusty1983]

I�ve been hearing the term �alpha-male� banded about more and more and Im having trouble getting my head around it all. One of my not-very-close-friends was into it and was saying its how to get the girls etc. And by this I mean acting into the traits of it. He got some girls but ultimately from my distance I could see they saw a nice guy being a bit of a nob, and I�ve been doing well for some time now without busting my balls trying to show off when Im out and about and give it the big I-AM when girls are around.

But people really buy into it and it messes their heads. I�ve been given grief in the past for not being an �Alpha-male� but I really don�t get what it actually means.

I found a list of character traits �

- Clever/smart/cunning
- Ambitious
- Excited
- Honorable
- Dominant (not aggressive, but demonstrating superior social skills)
- Stable
- Fit (healthy lifestyle)
- Curious
- Balanced
- Natural

And I believe I tick the boxes there, and I lead my own life my own way. But, I have never felt like a leader or like I can get a girl into bed in 10 minutes, nor have I ever really held a position of great responsibility nor would I be inclined to do so.

I dont think the definitions I find are apt enough to accommodate the subtleties of social situations I find, and I also think the negatives people put towards so-called �beta-males� are stupid. I don�t even know why Im reading it but it seems that Im being told (by books and ex girlfriends) that because Im not an �Alpha male� that my life is ultimately going to be rubbish.

Like I say, I dunno about you but I have noticed this term being thrown around a lot lately and its confusing.

Am I a complete idiot for not really being aware of this for 25 years? Or is it all a lot of modern day post-Sex In The City social psycho-babble, designed to mess with all our heads?

Are you Alpha? Why?

Do you think this stuff is applicable to humans? How wide is the scope here?

Do you think we are all just confusing ourselves with this stuff?

[nolegirl]

[nolegirl]

double post

[thematrixiam]

[sojourner1]

I experienced alpha class humans (kids) to be born leaders who just naturally fall into being the class leader or the most popular athlete, but this does not mean they will remain alpha class in their adulthood as every single alpha type I grew up with turned into fat losers after high school while others who they called, "retard," now move mountains in achieving things most only imagine and day dream about such as being priveledged enough to intellectually grasp a univeristy education and then traveling the world. You're alpha if you're good at working in a foreign country and are a bright educated example of your people, because this is a very complicated situation to achieve success in doing. All of you who are good at partnering with Korea or another uncommon country seldom toured by westerners are alpha adult humans in the apha quadrant. Trek on globetrekkers... Time to get geeky...LOL

[crusher_of_heads]

I had to learn the hard way, and that there is some credit to being an Alpha Male.

Being honourable gets you finishing last with the Nice Guys. I would like to say it ain't so, but I cannot.

At first, getting the vibe across that you not only can, but will walk away for something better works-it's counterintuitive, but nice guys finish last.


it's true, princess, it's damn true.

[KirbyMagnus]

[peppermint]

Lots of guys think they have two options- be a complete pushover and let her walk all over you, or be a jackass, who walks all over women. There are women who like each of those types of guys, but in general most of us want a guy whose comfortably in between those two extremes.

Relationships should be win-win, not zero sum games.

[chriswylson]

"I need an alpha male b/c I do stupid sh!t all the time (like 5% of the time, 95% of the time I just do what I want and don't listen to anyone), and I need someone to sort of put me in my place sometimes sort of slap me around (of course not literally as they would never find his body, ever) but figuratively. Its not about showing off just show you have control. Its not about being fit or curious, its about the power struggle."


Woow, if being an 'Alpha male' means attracting girls like you, I think I'll pass.

[crusher_of_heads]

[thematrixiam]

Meh.

I think if you can still be a nice guy to girls it's in your benefit. That way they say nice things about you. Being able to have that is a real bonus when it comes to meeting other girls. Good words spreading the right way works very well.

[grnmle]

I say walk all over women until you find the right one. Of course I am nearly 30 and single so I might just have to change my tune. Am I an alpha-male? Probably but, there are plenty of people that could kick my ass if I got all high and mighty about it.

I think Napoleon Dynamite said it best when he said something about skills. You have to have skills.

For me it is cooking, getting outlandishly drunk with others of the same make and model and not really caring what others think. Also, bragging about past athletic achievements is a good start. Some people have pointed out that I have a high opinion of myself but, I would rather have that than the opposite.

I have also reduced the amount of salt in my diet, so as to reduce my bodies water retention.

Can anyone tell I am bored?

[PigeonFart]

Adolescents tend to think about things like this...cos they haven't fully formed yet.

I'm NOT insinuating that thinking about this means that someone is still stuck in that teenage phase of social development... its a perfectly rational question to debate. However, if you're in your mid-twenties then ya should be comfortable knowing you who are, and comfortable with being yourself.

I admit, i didn't read all of the OP as i'm quite lazy tonight....so i could be completely off the ball. If so, ignore everything i said. I only responded because i heard someone say "Alpha Female" today!

[nautilus]

[thematrixiam]

'Shlink'

'Fu - thump - thump'


*lightening bolts surge through the forum*