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Korea ultimately must do whatever America tells it to do!
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legalquestions



Joined: 25 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Korea ultimately must do whatever America tells it to do! Reply with quote

I had an older student tell me this recently. He said Korea can't afford not to do whatever the USA demands, due to economic/business concerns and defense/safety concerns.

He went on to say that most Koreans realize this fact and that is what causes most of the anti-American sentiment here in Korea. "We realize that without America there to prop us up by defending us and buying our imports in disproportionate numbers we would suffer tremendously," he said.

Was he both wise and candid, or was he just telling me what he thought I wanted to hear?
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe he needs an A.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Korea ultimately must do whatever America tells it to do Reply with quote

legalquestions wrote:
I had an older student tell me this recently. He said Korea can't afford not to do whatever the USA demands, due to economic/business concerns and defense/safety concerns.

He went on to say that most Koreans realize this fact and that is what causes most of the anti-American sentiment here in Korea. "We realize that without America there to prop us up by defending us and buying our imports in disproportionate numbers we would suffer tremendously," he said.

Was he both wise and candid, or was he just telling me what he thought I wanted to hear?


He was largely right. Korea has been subserviant to another power for hundreds of years.
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is the *beep* who bends down and likes to take it.
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branchsnapper



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This situation, and the bad feeling/envy/secret love/wish to emigrate that goes along with it, can be found to a greater and lesser degree in many countries. Back home in the UK we sometimes wonder if we are the 51st state, and we aren't the only ones.
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Bigfeet



Joined: 29 May 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's ok, the US is slowly getting poorer and weaker.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigfeet wrote:
That's ok, the US is slowly getting poorer and weaker.


Nominally, not at all. Comparatively? Not really.
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigfeet wrote:
That's ok, the US is slowly getting poorer and weaker.


I'm a chronic doom-sayer, but even I don't think the last 8 years has damaged America so irreparably that we'll never recover. Just like after shitty presidents before, we'll elect someone new and the country will recover.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the countries in the world should obey the US
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bovinerebel



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
Bigfeet wrote:
That's ok, the US is slowly getting poorer and weaker.


I'm a chronic doom-sayer, but even I don't think the last 8 years has damaged America so irreparably that we'll never recover. Just like after shitty presidents before, we'll elect someone new and the country will recover.


It's not about policy. Any economy based on debt as money is going to fail. It's just a question of "when". And all the sings indicate very soon. I'm afraid the days of milk and honey are over.
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lastat06513



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea has a historical complex of trying to find a big brother and then latch itself to that nation as long as it is useful to Korea and its citizens.

They did that with China for about 600 years and it had a brief partnership with Russia and (despite how history portrays them) they were interdependent on Japan for about 30 years during the start of the 20th Century......
Now for the past 60 years, the newest benefactor of Korea has been the US.....much of it comes from the gratitude that the older generation give the US for liberating it from the Communist onslaught from China, North Korea and the former Soviet Union......

However, after the armistice, instead of fostering democracy and liberal freedom, the US backed a consortium of military dictatorships that had much to do with business than to help the ordinary people of Korea.
I think what caused alot of bad blood between the Korean public and the US was the Americans' inability to help the pro-democracy demonstrators, especially during the massacre in Gwangju in the early 80's. And the fact that hundreds of people supposedly 'disappeared' for allegedly participating in what was known as a 'communist uprising' against the South Korean government (such policies were not just isolated to the military regime in Korea, but also used by the military governments in South and Central America and in pro-Western governments in the Middle East and Africa).

That is just a small part of the bigger picture........

I have to agree with Bigfeet, the global influence of the US is waning dramatically and Noh Mu Hyun saw that when he tried to introduce a policy of "strategic balance"- basically taking the side of the nation that makes the strongest argument.........which is almost like playing bitch during a fight......
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Bigfeet



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real wages in the US hasn't gone up since the 70s. Medicare and SS is heading toward catastrophe. The dollar is going down and down (because the government can't operate without printing lots and lots of it) while prices are going up and up. Foreign governments are buying parts of US banks. A german company is trying to buy Anheuser-Busch.
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Korea ultimately must do whatever America tells it to do Reply with quote

legalquestions wrote:
He went on to say that most Koreans realize this fact and that is what causes most of the anti-American sentiment here in Korea. "We realize that without America there to prop us up by defending us and buying our imports in disproportionate numbers we would suffer tremendously," he said.

You should have told him not to worry... in 10 years it will be China that Korea will be bowing to instead of the US.
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IncognitoHFX



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
All the countries in the world should obey the US


I, for one, welcome our new overlords.
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Frankly Mr Shankly



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is a sovereign nation who can choose its own path. Whether or not that path is in its best interests is another thing.
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