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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: what do you think of this? Reply with quote

http://www.isecureonline.com/Reports/RHB/WRHBJ506/

I came across this article that is debunking tons of health risks. It's quite long, but half-way down it tells of how flouride in water causes more cavities, you can't get skin cancer from the sun (it says that Australia has the lowest cases of melanoma), and how eating bacon and hamburgers aren't bad for you. Oh also, soy makes you fat.

If you have the time to read this, post your comments. Just to let you know, it was written by a doctor that is selling a book. I've actually heard what he is saying from other people.
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SirFink



Joined: 05 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a bit of truth in the midst of all that obnoxious bold text.

The real problem is there hasn't been enough research on nutrition. Why? There isn't much money in it or it's not very sexy. Most "nutritionists" are dumb jocks who went to university on a volleyball scholarship and by their senior year had to declare some sort of major.

Who wants to spend 4+ years in medical school studying nutrition? It's sexier and more lucrative to become a brain surgeon. Med students get maybe a single course on nutrition and it's probably taught with a 30-year-old text book. It's no wonder that guys like Atkins were cardiologists! One-third of Americans are overweight. The nutrition experts (i.e. doctors)? One-third overweight! Hmmm...

What few studies are done often give us results that go completely against conventional wisdom. For example, study after study on vitamin supplments has shown they do absolutely nothing for people! Who pays for these studies? The vitamin makers of course! So, obviously, they don't widely publicize the results.

A recent multi-year study found that women who took calcium supplements and consumed more dairy had absolutely no reduction in the rate of osteoporosis. Yet we still see TV commercials asking us "Got milk?" and were told it gives us strong bones and healthy teeth. How can they get away with this shit?

Another multi-year study found that people who eat lots of meat and fat actually had their bad cholesterol go down while their good cholesterol went up! Again, you just don't hear about this stuff on CNN. Instead, the "experts" on there tell us to eat tofu and wheat bran.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy is telling people what they want to hear. A quick google search on skin cancer rates by nation shows Australia has one if not the worlds highest rate of skin cancer.

I've seen plenty of mainstream medical advice telling people not to eat too much tofu and to get at least 15 minutes of sun/ day for vitamin D production.

Everything in moderation seems to be the safest route
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Bigfeet



Joined: 29 May 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The people are sheep and corporations are the sheperds.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think moderation and sensibility are far more valuable than what any person trying to buck mainstream trends can put out in a faddish book.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun and skin cancer is a pretty well established causal link. I'm just waiting for mine to grow. During my life, from about age 5 to 25, I had probably 15 really really bad sunburns. Bad enough that the blisters formed and the first layer of skin sloughed off in the same day.
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Stormy



Joined: 10 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the fact that it's a guy selling a book tells you all you need to know really. He's telling people what they want to hear and his book will sell by the thousands if not millions.

Mention just about any 'health fact' or food-related fact and someone somewhere will have an opinion that's diametrically opposed to someone else's opinion, whose opinion contradicts the next person's opinion and so on and so forth. Carbs are bad, carbs are good, soy prevents cancer, soy promotes cancer, blah blah blah.

A few years ago my mum was diagnosed with breast cancer and we looked into all manner of treatments, from the traditional to the alternative to the completely whacked out stuff.

The amount of opposing theories on everything was mind-boggling. She chose a middle path of traditional stuff combined with some alternative stuff and is now in remission I'm happy to say, but it was an interesting eye-opener.

It's also no coincidence that many of these theories were being touted by people selling books.
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